well i lost my last chick on day 21. this has to be the hardest one to lose because i was so close. well maybe i will have better luck next time with a better incubator. if any one is thinking about getting a chic bator please dont. there is no way to keep temps stable and they are really not worth the trouble. please take my word for it. well anyhoo thank you for all that helped especially you hypnofrog, and Miss P you guys were great and i really learned a lot.