OK guys & gals... So I had this nice design in my head for building my first quail coop, and decided to go price out some lumber. I discovered a "re-use-it" shop near my home that is kind of like a Salvation army, but not clothing. People drop off all sorts of old stuff and then this store resells it for cheap. There is a lot of lumber scraps and other construction stuff, so I figured I would rummage around and pick up stuff that could be useful. You know, maybe some roofing shingles that a builder dropped off, or some pieces of wood. Well shucks.. I looked in the back yard area where there was a bunch of random stuff, and look what I found back there! This is actually a Hayneedle rabbit pen, and it's barely used at all. The dimensions are 60" by 19", and it's 21" tall in the open screen area (a little taller in the area with the roof). There is minimal evidence of some poop on the pull out tray beneath the "house" part, and a few scratches here and there, and the ramp needs to be repaired where it connects to the upper floor. Otherwise it's as good as new. Whoever bought it must have changed their mind on whatever they were keeping in it. I tried to talk myself out of buying this, but the price was pretty good to begin with, and I haggled an even better deal.. I nabbed this for a mere $50. That's less than the materials that I was pricing out (I'm starting literally with no lumber or materials). So I went for it. Now I know this is not the ideal quail coop, and I plan to make improvements. Here's where you come in! Help me out by looking over my plans and tell me where I've gone wrong, and what else I should consider. My initial goals with quail are to get a small flock of all females for egg laying, but I'm also toying with the idea of hatching some because I really don't know where to get live new chicks, plus it could be pretty fun. Anyway... here are the mods that I plan to make. Please tell me what you think, especially about items #4 & 5. 1. I want to elevate this, so I'll build a frame to put this on. This has no floor, so the frame will have the 1/2" x 1/2" screen on it so that when I place this on top, I will have a screen floor. 2. I want to have external food and water filling capability, so I'll probably build a PVC feeder that will mount on the outside of the far left end (as you see the picture). I may extend the frame that I build an additional 6" or so to help accommodate this, though I wonder if that will invite predators to sit on the shelf and try to reach in.. Thoughts? 3. I will improve the screen material. The screen that Hayneedle used here has openings that are 1" x 3.5". Apparently people who keep bunnies in these things aren't worried about predators! I plan to staple the 1/2" x 1/2" screen material everywhere where you see the existing screen. I'll leave the existing stuff there for additional strength. 4. I don't know whether quail will use this ramp, but I definitely want them to have full access to the house and all of the open space. I also have read that to prevent the boinking problem, quail coops should be no taller than 12", or much taller (like 4'). My options are to divide this coop in half height wise, with one batch of birds in the "upstairs" portion that would include the "cabin" and the upper half of the open cage. Then I could have a second batch of birds in the lower section too. This thing is almost 2' tall, so that would give both the upper and lower sections almost a foot, though the lower section would be closer to 10" or so. 5. I may consider extending the open area another couple of feet, depending on #4. I'd like to house a dozen or so birds. Given that it is roughly 5 x 2 now, if I do NOT split it into two floors, and if the quail will use the ramp, I have a little less than 10 square foot, so 10 birds. In this case, I may just go ahead and build out the frame (step 1) to get a few more cubic feet. But I could double the square footage if I follow through on step 4 above, leaving enough square footage (using the 1 sq ft per bird) for 15-20 birds. I invite feedback from all of you with quail experience! I'm a newb... never raised quail or any other sort of bird!! I want to do a nice job for the birds, get some eggs, and make this a fun thing for my kids to participate in too.