WHAT AM I DOING WRONG??? i JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND....

Discussion in 'Incubating & Hatching Eggs' started by mudderhen, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. mudderhen

    mudderhen Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have hatched two batches of my own eggs. Hens are established and the roos are, too.
    I have a LG still air bator with auto turner. I checked my temp. and hygrometer and the humidity is 4% off. I have two EE hens, three JG hens, and two Turken hens. The eggs are fresh when they go into the bator. Bator has been cleaned with soap and water and Oxine AH prior to incubating new eggs. The first batch, two EE babies hatched on day 14 and 15. I have NO idea why... I was looking into the bator to check on the temp. and humidity and there was a chick looking at me. The next day, being paranoid, I checked the bator again, and there was another chick. These eggs were all placed in the bator at the same time. I had seven other EE eggs along with some others. Some of the others hatched, but on day 21 when they were supposed to. None of the other EE eggs hatched. After I made sure nothing else was gonna hatch (several days later), I broke the eggs and all had fully formed chicks in them. Temp. was about 102 and humidity around 35-40% until last three days, and upped to 60%. Most of my other types of chicks hatched, but not the EE.
    Okay.... now for the second attempt. All fresh eggs. From my own girls... None shipped... I put 12 EE eggs, 12 JG eggs, 6 NN eggs, and 6 serama eggs in the bator. This time I had my husband install a PC fan to see if that would help. Bator was cleaned before eggs went in, same scenario. Kept temp. about 100 with the fan, and humidity about40%. Eggs came out of the turner on day 18. I had candled the eggs a couple of times at different times, and lost 2 serama eggs, 2 JG eggs, and 1 NN egg prior to eggs coming out of the turner.
    7 JG eggs hatched and three EE eggs hatched. On day 20/21 like they were supposed to. I left the rest of the eggs in the bator for an extended time to make sure I didn't have any late hatchers. I broke the eggs open this afternoon, and all 9 EE eggs had fully formed chicks, some had even almost completely absorbed the yolk sac. All dead. I lost three JG chicks, but that didn't really surprise me. I had about 99% fertility on the 36 eggs I placed in the bator, but about 30% hatch rate. WHAT am I doing wrong??? [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  2. jvls1942

    jvls1942 Overrun With Chickens

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    early hatches usually mean high temp..

    Check your thermometer. ?

    Also check your hygrometer as long as you are at it..

    One thing that some people overlook is the thermometer used for wet bulb hygrometer.
    Test it for temperature accuracy also..

    Did you open the incubator at all during the last days of incubation?

    Maybe your cleaning solution is leaving a toxic residue ?

    Maybe the chicks are suffocating from lack of fresh air exchange?

    To raise the humidity, are you plugging any holes??

    I am out of ideas..
     
  3. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
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    are they pullet eggs? sorry, missed first line [​IMG]
     
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  4. dixiechick

    dixiechick Chillin' With My Peeps

    I hate my LG. Got me a Hovabator Genesis (1500). It's SO much easier and reliable.

    Sounds to me that YOU are doing all you can...so it may be that LG????
     
  5. twigg

    twigg Cooped up

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    Quote:The problem you are having is *Dead In Shell*.

    Google is gonna give you lots of help, I'll try to put something here too:

    http://gallus.tamu.edu/extension publications/b6092.pdf

    This, and others might help.

    In reality it's gonna be a process of elimination, but you might want to go get a dozen eggs that are from a well producing flock .... incubate them and if they hatch it will be your flock that is the problem, not your incubation.

    The only other thing to do is to be scrupulous about monitoring temp, humidity and turning.
     
  6. Tuffoldhen

    Tuffoldhen Flock Mistress

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    I'm not up on air vents in LG but maybe Insufficient Oxygen if the vent plugs need to be pulled? I would also get new thermometer/hygrometers incase yours are off, two different ones set in the bator. Check your batteries also, I dry my thermometer/hygrometers out after each hatch and add new batteries when I set a new clutch of eggs.
     
  7. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

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    Quote:I agree
     
  8. jvls1942

    jvls1942 Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:I agree

    I don't... the new ones can be just as wrong, or worse..

    you are going to have to go through the effort to test for accuracy or have it done for you..

    I have a whole pile of "new" thermometers of which not two of them register the same..

    You cannot put two therms in and take the average either.. what if they both are reading high?(or low)
     
  9. Tuffoldhen

    Tuffoldhen Flock Mistress

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    I have two thermometer/hygrometers that I have used for 4 years now the same ones. I have never had a problem with them being right on the money. Walmart specials.

    So I agree to disagree.
     
  10. halo

    halo Got The Blues

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    I cant believe 2 babies hatched on day 14 and 15. Impossible. Someone miscounted their days, its just impossible. If you have fully formed chicks that are dying at the end, I would guess the humidity has been too high. I really think its better to err on the side of lower humidity rather than higher.
     

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