I have two of these chicks. I got them for free when I picked up my chicken starter. They day was busy (first chicks of season) so all the straight run chicks were mixed together. I got 5 bared rocks (4 cockerels and hopefully 1 pullet) and two of these which I thought were RIR. They look nothing like my current RIR but similar to my New Hampshire red pullets I just got. They all came from belt hatchery.