what breed might this be if these real breeds hatched ??

Discussion in 'What Breed Or Gender is This?' started by strangeanimal, Mar 24, 2017.

  1. strangeanimal

    strangeanimal Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Yesterday my copperblack marans rooster got on another colour than expected , he jumped on a few Sussex breeds and left it by only these white ones with black neck instead of his breed hen .

    I have no idea about hatching and try to get myself as much info I can get altough I'm not even sure these hatchlings should be born due the fact I've read about misformings , such as that has to be the same etc .

    Is it a known breed that comes out of this or is it a ' mixed chicken ' only ? would they look like their mother ( white ) or do they become black / copper or even both ? what is the sexlink in fact ?
    who has most influence on the youngsters ? I did see a brown hen having brown - white chicks due a sussex rooster but these colours marans vs white sussex is what I can't find online either ? are the hatchlings going to be able to grow as should ?
     
  2. Ridgerunner

    Ridgerunner Chicken Obsessed

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    Breed is a manmade thing. Chickens don’t see breed, they just see chickens. Any rooster will try to mate with any hen, breed does not matter. Those eggs can hatch healthy chickens just like any other eggs.

    The Black Copper Marans rooster over the Light Sussex hens will produce healthy mixed breed chicks. If those are true Black Copper Marans and Light Sussex, which means they are not crosses themselves with mixed genetics, the male chicks should look a lot like the rooster except where he is red his sons will be silver, probably an off-white. The pullets should be black with a reddish head. This is after they feather out. When the chicks hatch they should have mostly black down. There might be some yellow down on the face of the males and some reddish down on the face of the females, but you’d probably have to have them side by side to notice the difference, if you can see it at all. If you can see the color difference they will be considered red sex links, but it may be hard to see the difference in the down.

    Those colors and patterns are due to genetics. It’s not that a rooster’s genetics overpower the hen’s genetics or the hen’s overpowering the roosters. What the chicks look like depends on what genetics the parents have.

    I don’t know where you heard that a rooster will only mate his breed/color/pattern of hen or that the crossbreed chicks will be unhealthy. That is not true at all.
     
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  3. strangeanimal

    strangeanimal Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thank you very much for your sharing of some heavy wise stuff !!! I was told on a Dutch forum that they have to be atleast resemble in eye colors , some patterns and that a white chicken gives yellow chicks while a black or dark coloured one gives dark ones and that that would be bad . Time ago I wanted my Rhode island red crossed with sussexrooster and I am pretty aware that a lot of hybrid are thanks to the rhode island red so I did not see any problem at all , the girls are big yes but that sussexrooster is still bigger and I got answers mentioning the fact my rhode island was too big for it in first place and secondly the color was in issue again . Better didn't listen to the advice because I don't have that rooster anymore , gave him a new home .

    Now I have already noticed some behavior changes in the sussex ... So I'm going to have to learn in turbo modus today ! It is the newcomer you read about in the topic where you letted me know you first have to introduce new birds with a fence , it is that one that just became broody today , well now I noticed more extreme 'hormone ' behavior , and it also explains some of her agressiveness towards the marans , most fights happen on the nestingbox , altough now seperate from eachother she keeps trying to peck on her and I noticed her with an egg , it was actually a lovely view tough :) , she was putting her egg a little bit more to the side of the nest with her beak and went sitting on it , yet she still goes of the nest too so that is fine for now as I am going to take the egg away by nighttime and replace it , just hope she will hatch like normal and stays in the nest when I put the eggs back .

    Anyway I'm happy to know the chicks in the eggs the following weeks will grow out just fine into a nice chicken , now this is all new for me and I am very excited yes but also extremely scared to do anything not good enough since I'm in fact just a newbie in raising chickens altough the hens from my father never miss anything , were his untill he went to heaven and I started to take them over but mostly my mother and brother came to do everything so I'm in a total new adventure and I'm loving it already !
    p.s. : lots of thanks for your info and this forum has by this already changed some things good , who knows I might become a real chickenfarm ;-))
     
  4. Ridgerunner

    Ridgerunner Chicken Obsessed

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    Some of the things you hear about chickens depends on a certain person’s goals or preferences. If someone is breeding chickens for show, intermingling colors or breeds would be very bad unless it was a controlled breeding with a specific goal in mind. If you were convinced that Light Sussex are the greatest chickens in the world, anyone that has anything else is just wrong. You can get a lot of strong opinions on how to feed your chickens, some people add some weird things to the food or water and think they’ve hit Nirvana while most other people don’t feed that way and do OK. Someone that free ranges a large flock with multiple roosters in a rural setting will have different opinions and experiences than someone keeping four hens in a small pen in an urban backyard.

    One of the challenges in reading this forum is to try to understand where the person posting is coming from. Do their experiences and situations really apply to you, your situation, and what you are trying to accomplish with chickens. We are all so unique that there is hardly anything where one way is right and every other way is wrong. It’s not always easy.
     
  5. strangeanimal

    strangeanimal Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Now this post is what I call hitting the nail on the head !
    Apparently this is also the reason why some people just couldn't " let me B -(me) ;) " . It is true that each of us is valuable enough and capable of raising chickens but we need simply to be able to find the respect in ourselfves to let everyone have his or her way to do so , not because it might be better for the people , not for the chickens but for both reasons in fact and you might believe often that that way is certainly not going to work etc , you can still be surprised that after all it did work , no matter where it's about , food , raising chicks , eggs , hatching , deseases , and so on .Ofcourse there are some ways that are just simply not done or the opposite ( you don't leave them without water for example or give them just a few drops and ofcourse they must be looked after but the hows and why's is rather individual tough that's why this forum exist , right ? :) share your knowledge and questions or doubts , your ' special try-outs ' and we can all learn from it , either the answer received works fine for you as well or it ended up less but none the least we just gained some lessons and do it better from that time on ... personally it does not matter to me how the hatchlings will be from how they look , it does matter to me that they just have what the both races have , both are quite good egg layers plus the meat is on both of them ' build in ' , also in their character , especially my marans is a gentle breed , they are like my cat in fact but with the genetics of a sussex they can more easily defend themselves I assume as noticed here and in general that both the sussex and marans are friendly (marans is almost cuddling , they would not mind that at all ! :D ) but sussex is more strong in their willpower so if they don't want to be petted for a moment you go to the yard they just run of or let you know , I like both in their characters as long as the breeds are especially friendly and tame , and I want them to be able to defend themselves if that is needed so I got a bonus there or not at all , the sussex is physically a tough one ( marans as well but not in defending at all ) so I hope to see that too in the chicks because a marans struggles in defending , better yet it fails in that matter , for example if my hens Marans get attacked by just ONE single sussex ? they put their head letterly in the ground ! if my kiddie grabs them by accident by the wrong places like feathers they just squeak some and do nothing else , don't do that with a sussex because that one starts to scream and peck and often drive their way trough I noticed . If I step in the pen and I need to give them panacur ( or whatever reason ) and they want to scratch and eat you are going to be hunting them like a fool .
    just one side of the sussex I find so annoying is that you reallyyyy have to be patient if they are doing sneaky bad things and that is one typical thing they just are : sneaky and sometimes just evil but in fact they're commonly gentle to the hand that feeds them ofcourse , only a breed you hardly teach a ' no ' , compare that with a marans the poor chicken does not even move a muscle , I think they are a little bit too soft sometimes :D . Perfect example to close my post ? :)
    went to the yard with my little girl to feed them some scraps , usually they all eat calm and gentle out of the hand but the weather has today changed into a sunny and even nice warm day , the sussex was waiting for me to drop it , the softies marans were eating out of our hands , now that itchy side of the sussex again , sneaky as they were just so called ' accidentally pecking you while they take it so you'd drop it , my girl did indeed , she said it pecked her and I felt it too a few times and then they look at you , waiting for your responses , hoping you 'd chase them or anything , now that is mean in fact but still they just like to fool around and mess with you a bit , the food on the ground ? poor marans ! :D gave those somewhat extra while the sussex was out of sight ;-) , really curious how these chicks are going to be , atleast if the hatch goes well because we still got a long way to walk now :) ,
    regards with some sun in Belgium !! enjoy your time and flock :)
     
  6. Janie hall

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    [​IMG] ok I need some help identifying this little cutie she is red ND blue I have a buff silkie roosters and a white silkie roosters the eggs I hatched were either silkie /Cochin or mille Fleur d'ucce any guesses what she is
     
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    few more pics[​IMG]
     
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  9. strangeanimal

    strangeanimal Chillin' With My Peeps

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    honestly ? she has a lot from a cochin and a marans is what I think :) she is pretty btw :)) but I'm just new here so ... But really I see cochin vs marans
     
  10. strangeanimal

    strangeanimal Chillin' With My Peeps

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    mmm I had some other thougts too , do you have a shot from her chest and shoulder same time ? sideways , I actually see 3 other breeds instead of 1 , first I said marans because of the legs and back and especially head but have doubts about two other possibilities , could in fact be what you said it should be ...
     

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