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What colors do you get when you breed a buff orpington to a splash orp?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by muslw4, Oct 30, 2013.

  1. muslw4

    muslw4 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I want to breed to get a lemon Orpington. I have blue, splash, lavender, and buff. If I bred buff to splash could I eventually get lemon? Does the splash dilution gene affect the buff color? I understand the splash is recessive and won’t show in the first generation. I also know buff is a combination of several colors. Would it be better to breed lavender to buff? I know that lav is a different gene than the blue/splash. I would eventually like to get lemon barred/cuckoo. I understand the barring gene abut can’t get my mind around how you get lemon. What about the lemon blue phenotype? Where does that come from? I think lemon blue Cochins are beautiful and would like to see that in an Orpington.
    I’m reading through past posts but can’t find the answer I’m looking for.
    Thanks for any advice
     
  2. DallasCriftins

    DallasCriftins Chillin' With My Peeps

    Doing that interests me too I have two splash roos and two Splash Hens plus some Blue and Black hens I was think of getting a Buff Trio and wondered what crosses I might get. from them.



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  3. muslw4

    muslw4 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Well, after reading this article
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/genetics-an-attempt-at-simplifying-the-complex
    you have to have an inhibitor of gold gene to get lemon. But where does that gene come from? I have read too many threads and articles that now I don't know where I read what where. I think I also read that the dillusion gene dilutes black to blue and will also work on gold. Is buff a form of gold or are they two separate color genes? I'm getting more confused. Maybe just have to play around with breeding and see what happens.

    If anyone can shed a little light here it would be most appreciated.
     
  4. tadkerson

    tadkerson Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Last edited: Nov 1, 2013
  5. muslw4

    muslw4 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Oh thank you tadkerson that simplifies things. I thought Lemon was a pale buff or straw color. I think I can handle this one then. Thanks so much! I thought I understood the blue gene pretty well, but apparently not. I wish I could find a good chicken color genetics book to study.
     

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