What Size No Crow Rooster Collar Should I get?

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  1. Ilovefarming

    Ilovefarming Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have a Black Astralorp rooster and a Barred Rock Rooster. What size collar should I get them?


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  2. iwiw60

    iwiw60 Overrun With Chickens

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    Is there any particular reason you want to use these?
     
  3. kimberly35042

    kimberly35042 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    x2 I know of a rooster that died wearing one. If you don't like crowing, don't have roosters.
     
  4. cityfarmer12

    cityfarmer12 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Probably a large. I got an extra large for my Brahma rooster, and both yours are about the same size as a wyandotte, which would be a large
     
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  5. TaraBellaBirds

    TaraBellaBirds Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Not sure on size, but I must agree. I have seen many threads on here asking for help for roos that got caught up or somehow strangled by these things. Another thing is they do not stop the crowing only quiet it a bit. If roos are banned in your area you still run a risk of fines and confiscation.
     
  6. iwiw60

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    Amen, sister! Call me crazy but I view these as cruel and inhumane ...
     
  7. cityfarmer12

    cityfarmer12 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    That's true. Also, if your roo's haven't started crowing yet, put the collar on before they do. if they never actually start crowing full blast, they seem quieter and try to test it less in my experience.
     
  8. Monguire

    Monguire Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Stress kills chickens. Collars are a form of stress. If one has not taken the time to observe normal behavior before introducing the collar and cannot monitor its effects for a goodly amount of time after introduction then I'm of the opinion that no-crow collars are horrible. It is a tool like any other tool. Improper use, inadequate monitoring or lack of experience can quickly cause injury or death.

    That said, I've had a very positive experience with the collars on my two boys. I went with size Large both for my Buff Orp and my Black Australorp. The reasons for my positive experience are threefold:

    1) Tempered expectations. I didn't want to eliminate crowing. They are cockerels...crowing is who they are. I just wanted to ratchet-down the volume...i.e., carrying-distance of their crows. Good fences make for good neighbors. So does consideration and respect for others' rights to enjoy their outside time as much as I do.

    2) Observation. I know the habits of my cockerels better than they do. The pullets I pay slightly less attention to as well, let's face it, they just aren't as high-maintenance as the boys are. With the boys, I've found that they telegraph their intent through how they carry/express themselves. My flock is also under big-brother style monitoring while in the coop and run. They are covered by multiple HD cameras that probe every square inch of space available to them while they are there. If an event happens while I'm not watching, i have the luxury of rewinding this captured footage and witnessing the action/behavior that led up to the event.

    3) Follow-up. Collars are not set-and-forget one-and-done tools. They require frequent monitoring. Between my Orwellian camera-setup and frequent physical visits to sit with and observe my flock, I am able to see the consequences of my actions/inactions more quickly than most. I have been able to tell within minutes the difference between the typical oh-I-really-hate-this-collar-and-I'm-gonna-peck-your-eyes-out-the-next-time-you-touch-me drama that goes on for five minutes after a routine inspection/adjustment of their collars from the the REAL distressed behavior that can occur when I ratchet it too far and it is literally choking them to death.

    Bottom line...collars don't kill chickens all by themselves.
     
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  9. cityfarmer12

    cityfarmer12 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I totally agree with everything you said. Roosters themselves or more more high maintiance than the girls, and if they have a collar on, even more so. I also am not trying to stop crowing, just tone it down a bit. boys will be boys, and you shouldn't have them if you are not going to let them be who they are.
    I love the idea of having camera's in the coop...that would totally help to know exactly whats happening in the coop. I am totally going to do that.
     
  10. apix

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    I got 2 sizes for my silkie and it didn't work, seemed kinda cruel. My rooster would flop around backwards trying to get it off, and even when he would stop it wouldn't stop him from crowing at all, it was still very loud and you feel bad for the rooster.

    We had to give him to a rooster rescue to protect the other birds from getting reported and the town gets involved. In my experience I wouldn't recommend the no crow. We made one out of Velcro that was basically the exact same but softer
     
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