what's the genetic basis of porcelain?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by patandchickens, Nov 26, 2008.

  1. patandchickens

    patandchickens Flock Mistress

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    and thus from what other colors/patterns could it be constructed?

    Just curious,

    Pat
     
  2. LilPeeps

    LilPeeps Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Mille fleur and self blue.
     
  3. Vcomb

    Vcomb Chillin' With My Peeps

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    red wheaton + columbian + spangling + lavendar (all in homozygous form) = porcelain
     
  4. LilPeeps

    LilPeeps Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Mille fleur is created with columbian, buff, and mottled...I don't believe you can use wheaton and spangled.
     
  5. Vcomb

    Vcomb Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:buff is modified red. columbian is modified wheaton. mottled is the same gene that makes spangling.
     
  6. onthespot

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    wouldn't wheaton be modified columbian instead?
     
  7. LilPeeps

    LilPeeps Chillin' With My Peeps

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    But a spangled bird is quite different from a mottled one, so other genes would have to be present on top of the mottling.
     
  8. onthespot

    onthespot Deluxe Dozens

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    what is the difference between spangled and mottled? Wait, isn't spangled just a black tip on a self colored feather, and mille is self/black/white tipped feathers?
     
  9. LilPeeps

    LilPeeps Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Here are examples spangled birds

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    And mottled...

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  10. Vcomb

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    Quote:the gene for mottling/spangling is the same gene. they affect other genes in different ways. the mottled gene adds a white tip with black seperating it from the base color. on a bb red it becomes spangled. on wheaton it becomes a spangled wheaton. on a black it becomes mottled, on blue it becomes blue mottled. spangled wheaton hens look similar to a millie fluer hen.

    Quote:columbian is a gene, wheaton is an allele. the columbian gene modifies whatever allele it is found over, thus columbian over wheaton begets buff columbian.
     

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