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Discussion in 'Quail' started by Cowboy_Shamblin, Aug 20, 2010.
A guy wants to swap me some for jungle fowl
I Breed And Raise Butlers. They Are The Only Bobs I Work With. I Have In The Past Had Many Different Strains Of Bobs, But Settled On Butlers. They Are The Largest Commonly Available Strain And Are Capable Of 32oz Live Weight Birds With Selective Breeding (they Rather Resemble A 1 Liter Pop Bottles With Feathers At This Size...) They Are Flighty As With All Bobs, But A Tad Less So... Too Big To Spaz Out For Very Long I Guess? They Will However Bite Like A Snapping Turtle! True Beautiful Birds And Have Differing Personalities. Produce A Myraid Of Vocalizations, And Oh Yeah... The Important Part--- Since They Are Really Big Bobs, They Taste Like A Bob! Only There's More Meat
The Downfall With Them Is The Bob Behavior--- They Are Agressive With You And Each Other, They Require More Space Per Bird Than Coturnix, Produce Less Eggs/hen Per Yr. And Mine At Least Seem To Be Artificial Light Conissuers In That I Cannot Stimulate Them To Lay Year Round As I Could With Other Bob Strains. Also Unless Selectively Bred They Will Not Be Sumo Wrestler Sized Quail As Mine Are... Only The Top 10% Or So Will Reach Mammoth Proportions Of 30+oz. Most Will Be 18-21oz Without Selective Breeding. Still Bigger Than The Average Georgia Giant. If Your Inclined Towards Bob White Quail They Are A Good Variety.
Quail In General Require Differing Care Than Most Other Poultry. Obviously They Must Be Contained In Pens, They Have Differing Nutritional Requirements, Needing Higher Protien And Differing Sources For It. A Good Quality Gamebird Ration. And They Should Not Be In Close Contact With Other Fowl As Most Gamebirds Are Susceptible To Illnesses That Other Poultry Carry But Never, Or Rarely, Succumb To.
I have some They do fine
i wouldnt trade quail for junglefown exspecially if there real jungle fowl
Quote:I would for 30 oz Butlers
JJMR - I hatched 17 butlers a couple weeks ago. How mcuh space would you say they will need as adults per bird? How long should I wait to determine which ones should be culled?
Quote:2SQ/FT PER BIRD IS THE RECOMMENDATION AS A GENERAL RULE FOR BOBS OF ANY STRAIN. I RECOMMEND WITH MOST SPECES OF GAMEBIRDS A LOT MORE THAN THAT, + 10 EXTRA FEET! THE BIGGEST PROBLEM YOU WILL ENCOUNTER WITH BOBS IS AGRESSION TOWARD BROODER/ PEN MATES, THE BEST CURE FOR THAT PROBLEM IS LOTSA SPACE!
I DO NOT CULL ANYONE UNTIL LATE WINTER AS I HATCH ALL SEASON LONG SO IT DIFFICULT TO JUDGE THESE GUYS UNTIL THEY GET A BIT OF AGE ON THEM.... ALL MY BIRDS WILL REACH FULL SIZE IN SKELETAL TERMS IN ABOUT 26-30 WKS, BUT WILL CONTINUE TO ADD MASS FOR MUCH LONGER AFTER THAT. I DO NOT KEEP ANYTHING UNDER 20 OZ FOR BREEDERS IN MY PROGRAM, BUT I AM AFTER SUMO WRESTLER SIZED BOB WHITES (ITS JUST WHAT I DO...) SO ALL THAT MAKE THE GRADE HERE ARE BIG ONES. AS STATED, THIS IS NOT THE NORM.... IT IS A RESULT OF VERY SELECTIVE BREEDING AND TAKES A GOOD DEAL OF PATIENCE AND TIME. THIS IS THE 4TH SEASON OF BREEDING AND HATCHING. MY BREEDERS RANGE FROM 20-30+ OZ ---- 11 PAIRS AND 2 TRIOS TOTAL OUT OF COUNTLESS EGGS INCUBATED AND HATCHED--- ALOT OF TIME AND MONEY AND AGRAVATION. IT SHOULDNT SHOCK MOST HERE TO HEAR THAT THERE ARE A GREAT MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT MIS-REPRESENT WHAT THEY OFFER FOR SALE... MANY THINGS ARE ADVERTIZED WITH MISLEADING CLAIMS. BUTLER DO REACH UPWARDS OF 32 OZ THO RARE. AND GETTING THEM THERE IS NOT FOR THE FRAIL OR FAINT OF HEART. IT IS A MADDENING PROCESS WHEN COMPARED TO COTURNIX AS NOTHING--- I DO MEAN NOTHING HAPPENS FAST WITH BOBS, YET IN 6 MONTHS YOU CAN EASILY BE WORKING WITH 3RD OR MAYBE EVEN 4TH GENERATION COTURNIX. IF INTERESTED IN THIS STRAIN OF BOB WHITE FEEL FREE TO PM ME, I DO NOT HAVE EGGS THIS YR, BUT WILL BE HAPPY TO GIVE SOME REFERENCES FOR REPUTABLE EBAY SELLERS AS WELL AS QUESTIONABLE ONES TO USE CAUTION WITH FROM MY EXPERIENCE. PERHAPS I CAN SAVE SOME OF YOU GUYS A LIL AGRAVATION THAT I HAVE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH? I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO HELP WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
It depends if you are raising them for meat, dog training, hunting etc... Butlers are poor flyers compared to regular bobwhites. If you are looking to eat them, great, I keep a few, but IMO they are not much good for hunting.
Does anyone know if and where I can purchase Butler Quail in GA or TN?
Where can I find butler novelties in Louisiana