I forwarded this post of mine from the barred rock thread to start a new discussion, so I don't hijack the previous thread. This brings up some interesting points. At what point is a breed not a breed? Obviously, barred rocks with white legs havent been bred to standard, and probably havent been for a while. Its a disqualification, according to the SOP. So are they barred rocks? I have been following some of the marans discussion, and some people think that a marans hen that doesnt lay at least a 4 egg isnt a marans, just due to the definition. I would think Orpington breeders would be horrified to end up with chicks with yellow legs; hopefully they wouldnt be used as breeders, but would they still be Orpingtons? If a breeder is breeding dalmations, and has a pup with no spots, is that pup still a dalmation? Is breed definition defined by the animal standing in front of you, or does it depend on his genetic heritage?