Where are the CROSS colors? Do they exist?

Discussion in 'Guinea Fowl' started by chickenwhisperer123, Sep 7, 2009.

  1. chickenwhisperer123

    chickenwhisperer123 Whispers Loudly

    Mar 7, 2009
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    Okay, an ultimate newbie question here, but I was wondering why you never see cross colors of guineas?

    Do all breedings of colors produce a pure color?

    Would Royal Purple x Lavender produce an actual color or a mix? (just an example.)




    If Im missing something, please fill me in. but I DONT GET IT!! [​IMG]
     
  2. SimplyForties

    SimplyForties Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Pied is a cross of two colors. Or do you mean a completely new color?
     
  3. chickenwhisperer123

    chickenwhisperer123 Whispers Loudly

    Mar 7, 2009
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    Quote:I mean, like mutts. Is there any breeding that will give you a complete mutt, or will they all produce real colors (pied, lavender, pearl, royal purple, white, ect...)
     
  4. Debbienmousey

    Debbienmousey Chillin' With My Peeps

    Pied..I didn't think that was a color in itself..I thought it was in addition to the base color?

    ETA: An addition to the base color like tan points are in dogs.
     
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  5. SimplyForties

    SimplyForties Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Yes, what I meant was, pied is the result of two different colored birds bred together, resulting in a third coloration or pattern. I was trying to understand the OPs meaning about "real" colors. I'm still not sure I understand. Debbienmousey, do you mean not a recognized color?
     
  6. shelleyd2008

    shelleyd2008 the bird is the word

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    I believe the OP is asking if there are mixed colors. There are, but normally only one color 'shows', if that makes sense.
    For instance, if you bred a barred chicken to a red chicken, some chicks would be barred, some red, and some red and barred. Guineas don't work that way. There are some colors that may make a different color darker or lighter, but normally if the guineas are mixed colors, they show one color but are carriers of another color. So if 2 guineas are pearl, but carry lavender, there is a possibility of having pearl or lavender keets. Does that make sense?
     
  7. Akane

    Akane Overrun With Chickens

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    Different colors do not make "mutts" and they are not crosses. They are just different color genes being present or not. Colors kind of come in sets. There are guineas with full dotting, partial dotting, and solid. If you take a regular pearl which is full dotting and give it the genes for partial dotting instead then you get a royal purple. If you give it the genes for solid you get violet. Each color works that way. There are genes that dilute the color to a lighter shade and then you get 3 more colors based on how much dotting they get. Take a look at http://www.guineafowlinternational.org/colorchart/ and http://www.guineafowl.com/fritsfarm/guineas/genetics/. Pied goes on top of everything else. Any color can be pied.

    So if we mix a pearl and a royal purple it's going to depend what genes they have. Each animal gets 1 gene from one parent and 1 gene from the other parent for each gene sets. You may end up with all pearls or you may end up with mostly pearls and some royal purples or you may end up with something entirely different depending on what genes the birds are carrying. Certain genes are dominant or cover up other genes and you may not see what colors an animal is carrying the genes for. You only see the dominant color.
     
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  8. shelleyd2008

    shelleyd2008 the bird is the word

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    Quote:Right...what she said [​IMG]
     
  9. chickenwhisperer123

    chickenwhisperer123 Whispers Loudly

    Mar 7, 2009
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    Wow!! Thanks for all of the great information!


    Yeah, I guess my question may have been little hard to understand... [​IMG]
     
  10. CindyS

    CindyS Chillin' With My Peeps

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    All my guineas run together and so far I have had one that did not look like one of the parent colors. She looked like a white guinea that someone had smeared dirt all over her. Really ugly, i sold her:(
     

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