Where will all the roosters go??

Discussion in 'Local Chicken Laws & Ordinances (and how to change' started by the unicorn, Nov 7, 2014.

  1. the unicorn

    the unicorn Out Of The Brooder

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    I wanted to address a serious issue that affects us all as poultry breeders/keepers nationwide. In our ever-changing society,a society that depends just about totally upon electronic devices,supermarkets,large retail home improvement warehouses and the ability to have all our meager impulses at our fingertips and to be interconnected worldwide, we as poultry breeders/keepers seem to be getting lost to history and changing local codes in many suburban neighborhoods even in 'country' areas way outside big city limits. this is an issue in many ways. First, we as americans have the right to live and survive and sustain ourselves on our own land and to produce resources for us and our neighbors and friends.we also have a right to earn an honest living off the resources we produce.This is the basic principle of our nations rise to power and wealth. We the pepole became what we are today because of our breeding flocks of poultry that we brought with us and were able to freely continue to produce once settled.Our founding fathers fought bloody violent hand-to-hand wars to protect the land we aqquired and our rights to be free to live as we see fit free of oppression or dictatorships and to be free to produce our own resources and to keep our productive breeding flocks to secure our lives and futures.that future is the one we now live in.Id say we did pretty well!! but none of it would ever have existed had it not been for the peopoles ability to raise their flocks and veggies! As we all know,poultry or eggs are consumed by just about everyone in some form or other. When disasters strike and lights go out in our modern world and gas for cars is not being pumped or delivered for weeks on end or worse, and supermarket shelves go dark and empty and brawls break out in shopping centers and parking lots over resources(like when superstorm sandy knocked us all out!)We that breed poultry or keep poultry in our suburbian communities are the very backbone of survival for our neighbors and families in our local area when things like that happen.We represent the true power of the people of our great nation with the inherent ability to sustain our communities when needed to without relying on the goverment or corporations whos hands are just as bound when lights go out. but many towns now have bans on roosters thus denying pepole the american right to produce and be self-sustaining with our green renewable resources as our founding fathers did before us and even our grandparents. this is dangerous as it removes vital renewable resources from the pepole and deprives them of earning extra income. it deprives the poor and needy of a valuble resource as well. Its outright unamerican. BUT there is a reason behind the practice! in many suburban neighborhoods accross the nation,where most folks have 1/4-3/4acre plots next to each other,lots of neighbors tend to complain about roosters crowing at times not in sync with their beauty sleep or their favorite show or thier infants nap time. so they all gang up on us at our town halls and vote to ban our roosters since they usually overwhlemingly outnumber us in any random suburban neighborhood,anywhere,u.s.a.! now in defense of those narrow-minded folks that are caught up in our modern world and have no idea or regard for what we represent or what we do or why, too many roosters is just obnoxious to any sane person; there are poultry keepers in suburban areas that actually keep several kinds of fowl of all gender and age like , for instance, 8 chickens,3 of which are roos,then 5 turkeys 18 quail 5 ducks and a freakin partridge in a pear tree if they could find it all crammed into a 1/2 acre plot with neighbors on both sides; although it may be legal IT IS TOTALLY RUDE OBNOXIOUS AND UN-NEIGHBORLY to do!! The fact is in all reality, noone in suburbia with an average flock of 12 birds needs more than 1ROOSTER to keep your flock going and to make your seasonal cash and continue to produce. you should always get rid of any extra roosters you hatch as soon as you can tell they are if you live in tight areas. the breeders who are inconsiderate of thier neighbors and have a 7 ring circus of constant day and night auditory assault bearing down on the sleepless neighbors from multiple flocks of various fowl all over your yard to the point at which its impossible to remain sanitary or sane are the breeders that mess it up for all of us! we cannot be rude and unsanitary or excessive about it in suburbia! 1 rooster is all you should need for a flock up to 15 hens in a tiny suburban plot; in order to keep a foot hold in our suburbias,we must be as considerate as we can be! do we really need 5kinds of poultry in our yards? do we really need 4roosters crowing in harmonic chain reaction? no. thats just ridiculous! Instead of our towns banning our flock propigation,clearer and more well-defined codes and laws like .......... 1 rooster per flock of 15, in say 600 sq ft of yardspace,along with rooster being locked in coop during certain hours to show your neighbors you do your best to muffle their early morning crows so they dont think youre a,well you know. also,new codes like no roosters unless 1 acre or more,but smaller plots can have hens. there is a happy comprimise that can be reached so non-poultry neighbors can be spared ridiculousness but yet poultry breeders can continue to produce our resources freely; so what if your neighbors 3 blocks away need to borrow your roo for a day or 2 cause he has a smaller plot and can not own a rooster;because you have an acre and his is 1/3acre;lend it to him!! not only does it open up nejghborly relationships it gives an additional opportunity for barter trade or sale in some ways! these are the other side effects of proper balance in a suburban community when codes are written with logical thought by pepole with a clue in our local goverments. its very important for us suburban poultry keepers to be able to remain productive in our communities and to be able to protect the pepoles future resouces for times of need. so i urge suburban backyard poultry breeders to limit your roos to 1;you dont need more than that! you dont need 8kinds of constantly squaking crowing gobbleing clucking and chirping all hours of day and night!you dont need 2 separate flocks of chickens; please be courteous in your breed selection and in your attempts to muffle your 1 roo to appease your neighbors,at least somewhat look like youre trying to.get rid of or process your surplus roosters BEFORE they start crowing too much! And always offer your neighbors eggs or fresh meat birds often.make them see that we are the resource we are and thier salvation in times of need! we backyard breeders are keepers not only of simply our poultry but we are the keepers of our childrens futures and securities! we cannot afford for thier sakes to have our roosters exiled out of suburbia all around our nation. besides, where will all the roosters go??? anyone else have any thoughts on the issue????
     
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  2. mrs buff laced

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  3. the unicorn

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    yeah; the enterprise. what a shame. piccard was right on that one!
     
  4. the unicorn

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    Here on long island, there is a great overabundance of roosters that noone can even give away for free,because a lot of townships have banned the exsistence and there fore noone can take them!!!! this is a serious issue!!! first of all, we cant have a productive breeding flock without at least 1 rooster as we all know. that means zero fertile eggs or chicks to sell or even propigate the next generation with when our current flock stops producing and gets slaughtered! that is no help at all. it also means that keeping chickens would be an extra expense to the tune of 40-60bucks a month depending where you live.instead of paying for themselves and generating an extra couple hundred bucks a month to keep up with your bills.which totally defeats the purpose of having the resource at all!! it also means we cant save our endangered or threatend heritage breeds from the edge of extinction!! any municipality that bans its pepole from being free and productive needs to have its goverment voted out(at the least)! these townships are creating a man-made ecological disasters that the pepole cant stop! it makes self-sufficient productive americans into criminals!!! every season!! because as we all also know every average clutch of say 12 eggs will likely have 2 or three roosters in it almost certainly! or more if your temp was too cool. And since its not apparent who is what until they grow combs and start trying to crow,you cant try to sell your roos until you know they are,and then it could take a couple weeks to find a new home for your surplus roos.here on long island it takes months!!! this makes innocent law-abiding americans automatically criminals from the moment the clutch hatches! very few chicken keepers in todays suburban world would even think of killing any of their birds as they are more emotionally attached to their flock,and interact with them far more frequently than a large-scale farmer would or even could. so what is to be done with all those 'unwanted', exiled from their purpose and flock roosters?? where are they supposed to go?? what purpose can they serve without a harem to protect and breed with?? town of islip here on long island in central suffolk county is the last strong hold of the pepoles breeding flocks and the last town that still allows us to be americans and have our roosters. in all surrounding towns roosters are banned; all the way across the island one end to the other(118 miles long containing 6 million pepole!) the only productive breeding flocks are those of goverment-created 'criminals'!! except in islip! but nowhere else! so are we supposed to toss our extra roos in the streets and let them wander away hoping they do not return??NOPE! we cant do that either!! finding your birds wanderin on neighbors yards is a code violation as well!!! lol! so, do we all get our roosters together in a big truck,tightly packed,and mail them to a street just outside the border of long island to be released on a public street to wander around and away??? NOPE. cant get caught doin that,either! can we import all of long islands roosters to breeders in islip? yes, for the moment, till they change our laws next week!!! then where will all our islands roosters go??? what can we do to prevent being criminals?? the answer is nowhere and nothing!!! our local goverments are creating an impossible circumstance for we the pepole as breeders and for our roosters leaving the leader of the flock virtually home less!!! it has to stop!! we have to put our foot down as the true power of our nation that we are, to pressure our local goverments to stop messing up our resources and causing animal abuse and flock owners to be criminals from day one!! it all boils down to idiotic ignoramic neighbors who did NOT PERFORM proper due diliigence on the properties they purchased by looking up the local town codes to see what your neighbors could do that they might not like!! that is not our problem as law abiding citizens!!! but yet we get harrassed by a corrupt local goverment anyway due to crazy ignorant neighbors! they are the sole reason all our islands roosters are being exiled! so where will all our roosters go?? anyone have an answer???? how will we propigate our flocks?? id like to hear someones input on this man-made ecological disaster!
     
  5. gawildlife

    gawildlife Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Don't forget to add bees to the unwelcome list. As a beekeeper of thirty years and president of our local club I see more localities trying to ban all types of self sufficiency.
     
  6. Xiao Casa

    Xiao Casa Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I think it is less or more strict from state to state, and worse nearer cities. Where I live the only laws regarding chickens are "Make sure it doesn't escape from your property" "It can't be annoying other people by being constantly noisy" and "If it poops on someone else's property you have to clean it up". Just the same laws as apply to dogs and cats. Poultry are allowed in any number as backyard pets, although if you live in a neighborhood you are not allowed to keep goats, pigs, sheep, cows, etc.

    But, in the next city over you are only allowed three hens (no roosters) and you have to pay a fee. It was much more lenient before but they have had a "backyard chicken boom" and are trying to get money from the fees. Before you were allowed ten chickens (hens or roosters) and did not have to pay a fee.
     
  7. gawildlife

    gawildlife Chillin' With My Peeps

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    The bad actors in this area seem to be the unelected zoning boards and HOAs. We, as in our local bee clubs, recently fought off a zoning restriction in a nearby county that would have essentially rendered the entire county off limits to beekeeping of any type. That same zoning board was eyeballing similar restrictions on chickens. Fortunately they came to their senses when we packed the room several times over and capitulated with simple and very reasonable restrictions on setbacks from property lines. They haven't tried to take on chickens since Georgia passed a right to farm law. Basically no elected entity may pass an ordinance restrictions a property owner's right to farm. Problem though is does not restrict a zoning board.
     
  8. enola

    enola Overrun With Chickens

    The solution to the extra roosters is simple. Extra roosters are meant to be butchered and eaten. Chicken owners who insist that their roosters are pets and thus can't be eaten, are bringing this rooster predicament down on all chicken owner's shoulders.
     
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  9. gawildlife

    gawildlife Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Enola, agreed but being new here I'm loathe to ruffle feathers. Chickens are for eating not petting.
     
  10. enola

    enola Overrun With Chickens

    Everyone is entitled to post their opinions on this site, as long as the statement is not profane, abusive or argumentative. I was just offering a suggestion to help out........
     

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