Will an Ideal 236 chicken breed true?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by topeka, Jan 27, 2010.

  1. topeka

    topeka Chillin' With My Peeps

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    A little confused?
     
  2. austinhart123

    austinhart123 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    so am i
    whats your question?
     
  3. Katy

    Katy Flock Mistress

    Is that Ideal's sexlink? If it is, no they won't breed true.
     
  4. ArizonaNessa

    ArizonaNessa Joyfully Addicted

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    I wouldn't think so since it is a hybrid leghorn created by Ideal Hatchery. I also don't think california whites breed true either since that is also a hybrid. But who knows I could be wrong. Hopefully someone will come along and enlighten us all.
     
  5. RAREROO

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    Quote:No Katy, they're not sexlinks, they are like California whites but they are hybrid that Ideal created that they claim to be the most efficient white egg priducer they offer.

    As for the question about them breeding true, We don't know what Ideal used to make them so I can't say for sure but my guess would be no, but I don't have any experience with them, maybe someone else who has them can tell you.


    LOL, ArizonaNessa posted while I was typeing and said basicly the same thing.
     
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  6. topeka

    topeka Chillin' With My Peeps

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    OK..........How about a Hyline W-36

    Will they breed true?
     
  7. RAREROO

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    I would doubt that any of those hybrids would breed true or at least keep there vigor over a few generations.
     
  8. BeardedLadyFarm

    BeardedLadyFarm Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I believe the California White is feather sexed at hatch, and is a hybrid of some sort of Leghorn, and some strain of California Grey.

    It wouldn't surprise me if the Ideal 236 is similar. I believe it does have a few stray black feathers, like the California white, indicating that it has a something else mixed in. I would bet their offspring would also be excellent layers for at least a couple of generations.

    Give them a call. They don't have anything to lose by telling you the truth!
     
  9. ArizonaNessa

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    It is my understanding that the breeding of a California Grey Leghorn roo over a Pearl White Leghorn hen results in a California White Leghorn. I am going to make the assumption that Ideal 236 is similarly created. Not the same but similar. Now if you were to breed an Ideal 236 to an Ideal 236 I would think you would get very good layers but they won't breed true because that is not how they were made in the first place. Same goes for Cali. Whites and any type of sex link. They are mixes not true breeds within themselves. If you want birds that will breed "true" then you are going to have to go with a bird that is the result of breeding two of the same breed together and if you want really really true then you are going to have to find someone that has good lines established and not from a hatchery. Nothing wrong with hatchery birds but sometimes there can be a stray in the gene pool somewhere down the line [​IMG]

    Was that confusing?
     
  10. tadkerson

    tadkerson Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:If you breed an Ideal 236 to another production white leghorn, you are going to get a very good egg layer. White leghorns on the average are the best egg layers. You can not go wrong with white leghorns. The best egg layers have good feed conversation; that is, they produce more eggs on less feed. In order for a person to determine if their birds are average or above average egg layers they would have to gather data and run statistical tests on the data. Most backyard breeders do not or can not do such tests.

    In order to determine if there is a difference in the number of eggs produced by birds you would have to run a controlled experiment.

    Oder 50 0f the ideal 236 pullets

    and at the same time hatch out 50 white leghorn cross breeds.


    When the birds were old enough to start laying, you would keep accurate records of the daily number of eggs produced by both flocks over a year.

    Then using statistical analysis, determine if their is a difference between the egg production in both groups.

    Most people are not willing to do this so, I say do what you want to do. No matter what anybody says you really do not know if there is a difference.

    Tim
     
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