Will orange guard kill scaly mites?

Discussion in 'Predators and Pests' started by FVRM, Jan 17, 2014.

  1. FVRM

    FVRM Chillin' With My Peeps

    I'm treating a few birds with scaly mite and i was wondering if i could spray the roosts with orange guard to kill the mites.
     
  2. chickengeorgeto

    chickengeorgeto Overrun With Chickens

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    If the mite you wish to kill is indeed the scaly leg mite what you are proposing will prove useless. If you really and truly wish to get the job done go to the drug store wearing dark glasses and get yourself a tube of the medicine intended to treat scabies in humans. The scaly leg mite and the human scabies mite are almost identical.
     
  3. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    I know from experience that it kills termites when sprayed on them, and termites are very tough to kill, so I would imagine it will kill mites on roosts and crevices, yes. Do not spray on animals, of course. I use Orange Guard in my coops when we do a clean out, but I've never seen any mites on my birds, ever, so I can't technically say I've experienced it kill them, just that I would believe it could if it kills a termite infestation. I'd definitely try it.
     
  4. Gallo del Cielo

    Gallo del Cielo La Gallina Resort & Spa

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    I highly recommend Orange Guard for killing anything that hides in crevices around the roosts. I've found it to be highly effective against poultry ticks. It's killed every arthropod I've sprayed it on. You will still have to treat the birds with something else though.
     
  5. chickengeorgeto

    chickengeorgeto Overrun With Chickens

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    Because scaly leg mites burrow under the scales and into the flesh of a chickens' foot where the scaly leg mites feed, breed, defecate, die, and finally decompose, INSIDE of your chicken, Orange Guard, Simple Green, or even depleted Uranium sprayed on the roost pole will have little effect on scaly leg mites. To kill scaly leg mites you have to HIT THEM WERE THEY LIVE, and they live under the scales and inside of the feet of your chickens. Now if you were dealing with simple "chicken mites" who feed on your chickens during the night but spend the day hiding by the thousands in cracks and crevasses, well that is totally another proposition. But you need something besides Orange Guard, something that keeps killing mites, not something that just kills the ones you hit over the head and that that you must reapply again and time again.

    Don't try this at home:
    I suspect that boiling hot water will kill scaly leg mites very well thank you, and remember that H2O at 212 degrees is natural, organic, and in small amounts it is non polluting to boot. However sticking your poor trusting chickens' feet in a bucket of boiling hot water will surely kill your chickens in the most horrible manner. Don't do it!!! Use something that will do the job, you owe it to your chickens.

    I am unsure of this but I seem to remember that "gray mites" and common "chicken mites" are one and the same species. The red verity of the everyday "chicken mite" is red because it has recently enjoyed a blood meal at your chickens' expense. This is the type of mite that Orange Guard may kill on contact but as soon as the death throws of the mites in question are over new blood sucking chicken mites will surely move back in, you have therefor accomplished nothing.

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    The anti scabies cream I recommended has the same active ingredient in it that dope smoking, flag burning, Hippies like myself have been using or recommending for 50 plus years to keep insect pest out of their hemp garden. It is the same chemical naturally present in
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    and I strongly expect that Rachael Carson would highly recommend it. That said, don't use it on human babies under 2 months old but it is perfectly fine for pregnant women to use on themselves up through the end of their pregnancy.
     
  6. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    I got from the first post that the member was already treating the legs of the birds and simply wanted to know if Orange Guard would kill any mites on the roosts, which it will. Certainly, it won't on the birds because it should not be sprayed on them. Plain old vaseline coating the legs for a week or so ought to kill leg mites because it smothers them, if that is indeed the problem. Before applying anything, the legs should be cleaned with soapy water, scrubbing with a very soft toothbrush to remove dirt from under raised scales. You can even add a drop of liquid mite killer like Eprinex to the vaseline and mix it with a popsicle stick, then apply to the affected legs, but usually, that isn't necessary. But, hopefully, since the OP was treating the birds already, he/she knows all this.

    I have a couple of old hens who have raised scales just above the toes and one hen whose scales look like some dinosaur and neither have leg mites. I've done the treatments several times. Seems that can happen with old age on some birds and drive you nuts thinking they're infested. Wish those scales would just lay down, but they won't no matter what I do. [​IMG]

    I do wonder if there are two types of mites going on the coop of the OP or if it was just a general question since leg mites live on the legs of the birds, as chickengeorge says.
     
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  7. FVRM

    FVRM Chillin' With My Peeps

    I'm all ready using petroleum jelly on their legs, but i just wanted to know if my coop is infested with scaly mites by now or do they only survive on the feet?
     
  8. chickengeorgeto

    chickengeorgeto Overrun With Chickens

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    Every silver lining is obscured by clouds, hidden in conundrums:

    Nothing was said about killing a termite infestation. Someone stated that it only worked when sprayed .... directly .... on the termite. I take that to mean that to control a whole colony of termites that you must squirt Orange Guard right between the eyes of every last termite.

    My first question is, Won't a ballpeen hammer work just as well??? I suspect that it will because no one has yet given any evidence of the fatal effects of Orange Guard on members of the arachnid family without the offending mite, spider or tick first being drenched with Orange Guard.

    To carry the argument to an even more ridiculous level, Sunlight is natural, it is organic, and it is 100% renewable, and plain old Sunlight will kill every last termite that tarries to long in its rays, all without using potentially dangerous chemicals like Orange Guard. The problem then becomes how do you dislodge or dig up the termites hiding in a wooden structure and the subjacent ground without totally destroying your house? [​IMG] My second question is, Will Liquid Sunlight work?

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  9. chickengeorgeto

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    To the best of my knowledge scaly leg mites are only present in or on the fowl. But there has to be a way that they can transfer from hen to hen. I would suspect that they do this while the chickens are roosting. I don't know this because if you want to watch out for scaly leg mites you'll need a microscope to see them.
     
  10. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    Must you be so ridiculously sarcastic? You must be taking lessons from other curmudgeons on BYC.
    My point about termites is this: they are about the toughest of all pests to kill. If orange guard kills termites, as it does and did (trim on coop, dirt against trim, termite infestation on plywood behind trim) it will kill mites and lice and it does so, safely around the coop area. Good grief. [​IMG]
     
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