Worming chickens.

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by quesad00dle, Nov 27, 2011.

  1. quesad00dle

    quesad00dle Out Of The Brooder

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    Hi...My chickens need worming...I have Noromectin any Canadian members no if I can use this on chickens and if so can I put it in their water. Putting drops on them is not an option. This is an
    Ivermectin injectible ratio is 10mg of Ivermectin per ml and is for cattle and swine. If I cant use this in their waterer suggestions on something I could use that is available at the feed store. I
    am in Canada so many medications are not available over the counter here.
     
  2. dawg53

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    Ivermectin injectable is ineffective against worms in chickens. You'd be better off using piperazine or fenbendazole/panacur.
    Edited: Flubenvet if you can get it.
     
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  3. quesad00dle

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    Thanks Dawg53....I dont really like the Ivermectin any how...I think you can use Valbazen which is available from the vet here. I am not sure about the other meds you mentioned but I will ask.
     
  4. dawg53

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    Go ahead and use the valbazen for your chickens.
     
  5. Chicken_Pauper

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    No, you don't put Valbazen in the waterer. And, Valbazen kills all types of worms, and is a good first wormer, doesn't overload the chickens. Safe.

    You give it orally to each chicken one at a time.. avoid the windpipe.. give 1/2 cc/ml per standard chicken and 1/4 cc/ml per bantam or small chicken. Repeat in 10 days... withhold eggs.... do not eat eggs until 15th day AFTER the last dose. Watch poop, if there are tapeworms, tapeworm segments it will most likely take more than two doses to get them treated.

    Use the Search here on BYC for "worming with Valbazen".... with dawg53 as reliable info.

    I do not know about ducks at all... I would assume they also get worms... Valbazen is not for chickens either, we use it "off label" for chicken worming. You would have to ask someone who knows ducks... or ask in the duck topic about worming ducks with Valbazen. Maybe a search "worming ducks with Valbazen".

    Good luck.. (if you put it in the water, you will not know who got what, who got enough or who got too much... it is not a good and reliable way to worm a flock).
     
  6. quesad00dle

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    If the Valbazen can be given orally to chickens why cant it be put in the water? My chickens are hard to catch so I thought something in the water would work. Is it effective against gape worms?
     
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  7. dawg53

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    Quote:Adding it in water will make it less effective. Addtionally how do you know that your birds will drink it, or drink enough of it to be effective? If you have a sick bird, the sick bird wont drink it at all. Properly dosed orally as Chicken_Pauper stated, valbazen will kill gapeworm, but will require 3, possibly more dosings 10 days apart. Withdrawal is 14 days after last dosing.
     
  8. quesad00dle

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    Just wormed my chickens with Ivermectin pour on a dosage of 5 drops per bird. Its 9:28pm and has been dark since 5:00pm and they were still awake and squabbling so they didnt like it much
    when I went in the coop with my helper and flashlight and poked them with my syringe ( no needle ). My birds are not very cuddly and are impossible to catch so I have to adopt the "stealth mode" when worming and creep into the coop under the cover of darkness. Now I have used the Ivermectin pour on...what if anything should I do next and when? I am going to completely remove all shavings and thoroughly clean the coop with DE and then put in fresh shavings.
     
  9. Chicken_Pauper

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    PM dawg53.... tonight if you can. He will give you more info. Or, use the search here on BYC for worming with Ivermectrin Pour On.

    You said your chickens "needed worming"... did you see worms in their poop? If so.. did you see tapeworm segments? If you think they have gapeworm, did you test for it.
    It is rare and most chickens do not have it. Do the Q-tip test.. Search or ask dawg53 about that as well -- just remember to avoid the windpipe the airway hole behind the tongue.

    Sounds like you need a helper for all of this... someone to catch and hold each chicken one at a time whatever you need to do. (That's what I do.. I have my neighbor catch each one in the coop, we dose, check, dust with Sevin Dust and then let go out of the coop, this way we know who got what, who's done, and who's left to do, etc.)

    Good luck.
     
  10. quesad00dle

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    They are skinny and feathers are dull and straggly. Their production has declined to 0 since June of this year. I have never wormed them before so I figured they could probably benefit from
    a worming. Funny I was just putting the Ivermectin back in the lock up and found I also have Piperazine 52. I could have put that in the water alot simpler since my chickens are not very
    friendly. My daughter used to do this...they were her chickens. She has moved to another city for university so I have to rely on my son, who is not known for his patience. He helped with the
    flashlight holding and identifying which birds i had wormed already.
     
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