Wry Neck or Newcastle Disease? What are the differences?

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by shelbylewis, Nov 26, 2018.

  1. shelbylewis

    shelbylewis Songster

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    They both seem very similar to me and I have been treating my 5 day old baby chick for wry neck. Her neck is not twisted backwards like most cases I have seen, but she walks backwards, loses balances, and her head spins in a circle. She is still eating and drinking on her own and I am giving her vitamin supplements. I also hear clicking when I take her out to give her her vitamins and I have linked that to a possible respiratory infection. I am using VetRx in her water for that. I have a separate thread on this but I just want to make sure I am treating her for the right thing.
     
  2. Wyorp Rock

    Wyorp Rock Crossing the Road

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    How have you been treating her?
    Where are you located?

    Wry Neck (Torticollis) is a neurological SYMPTOM of certain conditions and diseases - like Vitamin E deficiency, head injury/trauma, genetic defects, Marek's, Newcastle and Avian Lymphoid Leukosis.

    Newcastle I would associate with respiratory symptoms along with the progression of paralysis and symptoms of wry neck.

    If other chicks are or have been housed with this one, then I would expect more than 1 to have similar symptoms since Newcastle is highly contagious.

    Since Newcastle and a few other respiratory diseases are caused by a virus, there is no real treatment. Antibiotics can treat secondary infections, but normally the illness will have to run it's course.
    You received good advice on your other thread. I would continue to treat for Wry Neck and monitor the chick. Hopefully she will begin to improve.
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...ry-infection-pasty-butt-wry-neck-ugh.1282217/

    Here's some reading about common diseases http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044
     
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  3. shelbylewis

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    I have been treating her with
    -Poly Vi Sol without iron
    -vitamin e capsules
    -selenium tablets
    -poultry drench

    I started the poultry drench on Saturday and the other stuff yesterday.

    I am located in New Jersey.

    Thank you for all of this information
     
  4. Wyorp Rock

    Wyorp Rock Crossing the Road

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    I would really only choose 1 of those to give.

    Selenium is only given in a very tiny amount 25mcg (micrograms) per day. An overload can be toxic. A little egg, tuna or sunflower seeds has sufficient Selenium for the uptake of E.

    Aim for 400IU daily of Vitamin E and add some B vitamins (1/4 tablet B-Complex).
    Not sure what is in PolyViSol, but I do know that Poultry Nutri-Drench contains E, B1 and Selenium.

    Just don't overdo it on the vitamins:)
     
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  5. shelbylewis

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    Okay, I will stick with the nutri-drench since it is made specifically for poultry. I will go out and get some tuna sunflower seeds and grit tomorrow!
     
  6. Saaniya

    Saaniya Crowing

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    Wry neck or Crooked Neck is a typical Vitamin E & Selenium Deficiency
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    ND Newcastle is the viral virus that cause multiple things in the body of chicken but if this virus join the wry neck it will make more difficult to treat it .
     
  7. Saaniya

    Saaniya Crowing

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    My Bottle of vitami



    I've read this oral administration of common poultry vitamins
    vitamin A, 5,000 to 10,000 IU/day;vitamin D, 1,000 to 2,000 IU/day;vitamin E, 100 to 300 IU/day; and vitamin K, 5 mg every three days.
     
  8. ChickNanny13

    ChickNanny13 Crossing the Road

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    I've used PolyVisol without the iron for Riboflavin Deficiency when I had a 3wk old chick develop CTP (Curly Toe Paralysis). Not sure where I read about it but it was "easier" for me to administer than the B - Complex. Found this off a label for PolyVisol without Iron, it was two long weeks but chick recovered and went back to it's owner.

    Serving Size: 1 ml daily
    Amount Per Serving
    % Daily Value*
    Vitamin A 750IU50%
    Vitamin C 35mg100%
    Iron 10mg67%
    Vitamin D 400IU100%
    Vitamin E 5IU100%
    Niacin 8mg100%
    Vitamin B6 0.4mg100%
    Riboflavin 0.6mg100%
    Thiamin 0.5mg100%
    MetricServingSize 1ml
    * Percentage of Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
    Serving Size: 1 ml daily

    Amount Per Serving
    % Daily Value*
    Vitamin A 750IU30%
    Vitamin C 35mg88%
    Iron 10mg100%
    Vitamin D 400IU100%
    Vitamin E 5IU50%
    Niacin 8mg89%
    Vitamin B6 0.4mg57%
    Riboflavin 0.6mg75%
    Thiamin 0.5mg71%
    MetricServingSize 1ml
    * Percentage of Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
    Ingredients:
    Glycerin, Water, Ascorbic Acid, Ferrous Sulfate, Vitamin E Succinate, Niacinamide, Polysorbate 80, Caramel Color, Riboflavin-5-Phosphate Sodium, Vitamin A Palmitate, Thiamin Hydrochloride, Vitamin D3, Vitamin B6 Hydrochloride, Natural and Artificial Flavor, Sulfuric Acid (Antioxidant for Iron), Sulfites.
    Allergens & Warnings:
    Do not use if printed bottle neckband is missing or broken. Accidental overdose of iron-containing products is a leading cause of fatal poisoning in children under 6. Keep this product out of the reach of children. In case of accidental overdose, call a doctor or poison control center immediately.
     
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  9. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General

    Also vitamin b deficiency
    http://www.poultrydvm.com/condition/thiamin-deficiency

    I had two of these in the last year and I treated with injections of B complex for cattle and they recovered in less than 2 hours.
    tractor vitamin b_1.png
     
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  10. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General

    Go get some of this and give 0.05 ml to 0.1 ml orally.

    tractor vitamin b_1.png
    thiamine_3.png
     
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