I am a 4-H leader and a couple of my older teens are looking for these breeds for their projects this year. I might have a line on the lakenvelders, still waiting to hear, but still looking for the hamburgs, preferably penciled. We are in MI, if you are close, we are open to eggs, chicks, juvies or adults. If not close, probably eggs would be cheapest as the kids usually pay for stuff themselves. Thanks for any help!