Yet another "pullet or cockerel" thread...with a twist.

Discussion in 'What Breed Or Gender is This?' started by BCollie, Oct 18, 2014.

  1. BCollie

    BCollie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I've gotten very good at answering the "pullet or cockerel?" question myself, thanks to you guys. I have 4 Blue Laced Red Wyandottes that I got from a local breeder. One is no doubt a pullet, the others are cockerels. They got bright red faces with big combs and wattles long before the pullet did...actually, the pullet still has very little color to her face. No crows and no eggs still, at 6 months old!!!

    Today I decided that I'd like to have these cockerels butchered and processed when my parents get back from their vacation next week. So, probably next weekend. They'll be about 25 weeks old. I was picking them up to bring them inside and weigh them, one at a time. Got the first two pretty easily, they're not that flighty. The biggest is 5lbs, the second one was 4lbs 14oz. Went to pick up the third one and had to have my herding dog help me a bit as he's a little flighty. Managed to grab him by the tail, and I held on tight. He started squaking and trying to fly away, but I didn't let go. I had his entire tail in my hand, so I wasn't hurting him at all. I placed my hand on his back to gently push him to the ground so that I could more easily pick him up. And then, he squatted.
    I'm not joking. I was positive this chicken was a cockerel. I mean, look at these long, pointy, rooster-y neck feathers and these long, pointy, rooster-y saddle feathers. (click the picture to enlarge it so you can better see his feathers)

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    I tried to make him squat again after I brought him back outside after I weighed him, but he wouldn't. But, I have PROOF that he squatted when I went to pick him up! Pictures! He had put his wings back against his body by the time I got my phone out to take a picture, but he had been doing the submissive squat identical to how my girls do it.

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    Or should I not be calling him a "he" anymore? I am so confused right now!! He looks like a cockerel...but squatted for me when "he" was freaked out.

    What's your take on this?
     
  2. hollys chooks

    hollys chooks Chillin' With My Peeps

    I have a hen that mounts my pullets, it isn't a mating behaviour, it's a dominance behaviour. Perhaps your cockerel is exhibiting a submissive behaviour, you were being quite dominant at the time.
     
  3. StarMeKritten

    StarMeKritten Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Its a cockerel. Wyandottes tend to be slow to mature. My 7 month old BLRW just started crowing about a week ago. His brother from the same hatch still hasn't crowed. Roosters will sometimes submit to more dominant roosters (or humans) if they are being threatened. It was his way of saying "I'll do whatever you want, just don't hurt me!"

    He's very handsome!
     
  4. donrae

    donrae Hopelessly Addicted Premium Member

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    Squatting is submissive, not necessarily sexual. I have young cockerels in a grow-out pen with my mature rooster. The young guys do their level best to run away from Eric, but if one feels trapped in a corner when Eric's around, it squats down to let him know it's not challenging him in any way. Eric doesn't mount them, in fact he pretty much ignores them, but they still do it from time to time.

    Your dog looks lovely, btw! Is it a liver and white?
     
  5. BCollie

    BCollie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Interesting. I had searched google for "rooster squatting" and checked out a ton of links but didn't find a single one with someone saying they'd seen their rooster squat, so I wasn't sure what to think!

    Yep, liver/brown & white. I love her. :)

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  6. donrae

    donrae Hopelessly Addicted Premium Member

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    It's more an age thing with my guys. They're not old enough to really be roosters, they're still immature (probably a touch younger than your guy) and have grown up with this mature rooster being dominant. I've no doubt some of them may challenge him at some point, if they live that long. We're just waiting for them to fill out to butcher.
     
  7. BantamLover21

    BantamLover21 Overrun With Chickens

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    Both are definitely cockerels, with those pointed saddle feathers.
     
  8. Wyandottes7

    Wyandottes7 Overrun With Chickens

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    You definitely have a cockerel. But, I've never seen one squat before!
     

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