The cockerel is 4 months old and was hatched from my own private stock. He is very nice in all qualities...he's just got a little too much black on him for my liking. The pullet is from Nature's Hatchery, almost 5 months old, and is super nice in regards to body type, but doesn't have much spangling. She would be a great asset to anyone interested in developing their own mahogany Orloffs. In 1 of the pullet pics, her leg looks like it's twisted...but I guarantee her leg to be free of deformities. But she does have a slightly bent toe on each of her feet. The only reason I'm letting her go is to hopefully find a good home for this cockerel as I really don't want to send him to freezer camp.