Anyone familiar with DENAGARD ??

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Another member recently posted about an antibiotic called Denagard. It's supposed to a great preventative/cure for a variety of poultry ailments. And they say it can be given to laying hens with no withdrawal period. Here's some info: http://www.thepoultrysite.com/focus/novartis-animal-health/2281/denagard-premix-for-poultry-denagard-premix-the-right-choice-from-novartis-animal-health

The member who suggested it also posted links to articles about it:
http://www.octagon-services.co.uk/articles/avian_mycoplasma.htm

http://www.octagon-services.co.uk/articles/mycoplasma_sensitivity.htm

Here's info from the Denagard website: http://www.tiamutin.com/vet-poultry/firstchoice/en/protection.shtml

And a link to a place that sells it: http://www.qcsupply.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=denagard

If anyone else has information/knowledge/experience with this product, please let us know! If it's all it claims to be it sounds like a terrific product. And if you use it, where have you found the best place to buy it?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

I'm the one who posted the reference to it. Someone I know on another list posted it; she said she ordered hers from www.qcsupply.com

I agree it sounds like a fantastic product, but have not used it myself, and would also like to hear personal experiences. The main negative (based upon reading) is that it is not very effective on gram negative bacteria, and cannot be given in conjunction with most other antibiotics. But for gram positive organisms, including all mycoplasma strains, it sounds like it rivals or possibly even betters Baytril in effectiveness.

 

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I am woefully ignorant about these matters, could you please elaborate? For what kinds of ailments would you use Denagard, and when would you use something different? I tried to send you a PM but your mailbox was full.

 

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I am woefully ignorant about these matters, could you please elaborate? For what kinds of ailments would you use Denagard, and when would you use something different? I tried to send you a PM but your mailbox was full.

X2.. what is is used for? Wounds? Or sniffles??

 

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Okay.. my vet just gave me Baytril for my roos bumble foot...
Is baytril for staph infections...??

 

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I gave Denegard to my flock due to respiratory disease. Now they are much better than before.


Here is a link from the producer with quite a lot of information:


http://www.ah.novartis.com/products/en/denagard_premix_poultry.shtml


Even my turkey that was suffering from a nasty respiratory disease for almost 6 weeks now is fine!!!

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Baytril is very broad spectrum and treats both gram positive and gram negative bacteria; it requires a prescription.

Denaguard is broad spectrum against gram positive orgamisms; this site has tons of information: http://www.denagard.com/vet-poultry/en/index.shtml

 

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Where did you get your Denegard from? How long did it take to arrive? I thought it would be better to treat my flock right away with the only kind of powdered antibiotic the feed store had, called TetroxyHCA-280. It contains Oxytetracycline HCI. I feared their condition would get worse while they waited for an online order to arrive in the mail. Now I wonder if it would have been better to have waited and given them the better antibiotic.

Sonoran, thanks for the link, but I'm still in the dark as to what is the difference between gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria.

 

[HaulnFetch]

Gram negative or gram positive simply refers to whether the bacteria will stain purple with a crystal violet stain. It has to do with the make-up of their cell wall. Gram negative bacteria are more commonly found in the intestinal tract. If you are figting an infection, the only way to know what you are dealing with is a lab stain. From what I have read, broad spectrum antibiotics will often attack both but, the risk of using them is a built-up resistance over time. They are also more likely to kill beneficial bacteria. I copied this from another website:

Gram positive cocci tend to occur in pneumonia, bronchitis, and other respiratory infections. Gram negative rods (bacilli) tend to occur in urinary tract and intestinal infections. By "tends to" I mean it could actually be EITHER kind of bacteria, and only staining and microscopic examination will tell its gram-stain status & shape. Sometimes an immediate gram stain of a specimen (urine, sputum, bile, you-name-it) allows the doctor to begin immediate antibiotic therapy -- pending cultures and sensitivities that might take another 48 hours.

 

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There are so many smart people on this web site. You learn something new every day. This thread is so interesting.