Recent content by Porterturkeys

  1. Porterturkeys

    Is Kevin still active here?

    The closest you can get to that is Red Palms which are more of a "washed out" red because the Narragansett factor tends to lighten, fade or remove reddish brown pigment, but without it the homozygous red tends to overcome or cover up most of the palm pattern. The pattern never seems to be as...
  2. Porterturkeys

    Can you please tell me what I have.

    I could now see the black edging on the one young tom, that means it isn't recessive slate afterall. darn Genetically it is not possible for these to have originally came out of a bourbon red breeding as, Red to red can only make red, (with the exception of white gene carrier reds which would...
  3. Porterturkeys

    Can you please tell me what I have.

    I was sent a message to take a look at these. At first glance these reddish birds look similar to my blue red bronze, which are bronze based with a single red and dominate slate gene.But these are a much lighter shade which usually means the presence of a narri gene in them which would lighten...
  4. Porterturkeys

    My Lilac experiment

    The red slate actually does not carry a red gene, they are just bronze based with a single copy of slate, If you put a red gene in you will get a blue red bronze. http://www.porterturkeys.com/blueredbronze.htm Red slate is actually a very misleading name as to what the actual genes in the bird...
  5. Porterturkeys

    My Lilac experiment

    That tail covert feather is from a red slate, lilacs are double slated so will not have the black specks, most of your poults have the red slate pattern, (darker ones), now you do have some very light colored ones which are the actual lilacs. Take a look at my site for the patterns you want to...
  6. Porterturkeys

    Turkey Talk for 2014

    Statistically only about a 1/4 would come out the Oregon gray phenotype with this cross. The only way to increase that on the next generations is to breed only the bronze based ones together.
  7. Porterturkeys

    Turkey Talk for 2014

    You will get mottled slate types only.
  8. Porterturkeys

    Turkey Talk for 2014

    When breeding slates to royal palms what you will get in the f-1s is mottled black and mottled slate types. To get blue palms you would then need to breed these together or back to a royal palm, then you will start to see the blue palms coming out. Thanks R2elk for posting a pic of what the...
  9. Porterturkeys

    Turkey Talk for 2014

    Actually the dominate slate gene D is what you are describing, it is not located on the same locus as black, (so is separate) but you are correct that is does dilute black to the slate color , but it dilutes other color genes as well without black being present. If you cross a blue slate with a...
  10. Porterturkeys

    Chocolate turkeys

    Heritageturkey is correct on the tom in this pic, he is carrying a single bronze gene. Good eye. But I can see why the bronze hen to the right was confused with a chocolate mix as being in the shadows does make her look brown. But that tom in this pic is definitely not a pure chocolate, I put...
  11. Porterturkeys

    True Chocolates

    What I have is definitely the real macoy. Not crossbreeds. Kevin Porter's Rare Heritage Turkeys
  12. Porterturkeys

    True Chocolates

    What I actually did was take the available chocolates "crossed up as they were" and bred out genes that should not be in them. This was a project that took several years of selective breeding to get them back to a pure state. What I have now are as pure as you are going to get. Kevin...
  13. Porterturkeys

    Red Slate???

    Sounds like self blues, but they really shouldn't have white wing tips. I have a pic of a self blue tom on my site. But if that one isn't good enough here is another one of one of my self blue hens.
  14. Porterturkeys

    What will I get when I cross....

    You will get tricolor mottled blacks and tricolor mottled slates. Here are some pics of what they look like. Kevin
Back
Top Bottom