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Quote: Pine shavings are toxic to chicks... You can have SOME pine shaving mixed w/ Aspen if they are outside and well ventilated, but you should use Aspen or something that is not aromatic inside. Pine and cedar are no-nos for chicks

Quote: Thanks Mountain. I am actually getting an order ready, now. Although, I think $19.99 is well worth it for a consult. I had no idea that they did that. I have relied on BYC for a LOT. But I know there are many questions that only a professional can answer. For the record, regarding...

Thanks Brindle...it's looking like this is a disease...which I THINK is different than a virus? Not curable, and lots of deaths. My poor birds.

Quote: I had a feeling someone was going to say that. What about the little ones. I have chicks that are starting to show signs, too.

Quote: Thank you Enola. If they have fought it off, will they still need to be vaccinated? And if they are vaccinated, should I wait until everyone has faught it off? Esp if it is a live virus vacc? your hugs are most appreciated

Quote: They were infertile. There were no bullseyes on the yolks of 10 of them Going to firststatevet, now. Thank you

Quote: oh dear--everything points to this ILS. It says that antibiotics have no effect against the virus. If that is the case, than how have the ones that got sick with it first, getting better since I started them on it? Where can I find this vaccination? I need to get it fed-exed before...

There is DEFINITELY something going on. It is bad, too. I am not downplaying it AT ALL. I haven't bought any eggs or chicks in probably 3 months. They have been fighting this for nearly 2 weeks. The marans have finally started to recover. I have lost 2 cuckoo marans hens. I am left w/...

Quote: Thank you so much. You are all very nice. I appreciate your kindness. I don't feel bad for myself. I just really want to find out if anyone had the same experience w/ the fertility of the eggs as he said, or if it was just me. I do, indeed have some blue copper marans that I LOVE...

I've already given the "ONe last chance" - TWICE! The last 3 times I wrote was June 15, and the ONE LAST CHANCES were: June 24, and July 14. Mind you, he wrote: "...so have set a batch of eggs to check fertility myself. I should know more in a week or so. I can offer you more eggs at no cost...

Hey guys, I purchase a dozen black copper marans eggs (really dark) from a fellow in Mass. I contacted him in December, he had eggs, I paid paypal $70, and had to ask weekly where my eggs were. The eggs were finally shipped by way of UPS 2nd day air around 12/16/2008. I received, incubated...

Please post a picture. What is your Marans' line? I have Davis, Presley, Jeane, & French lines. Thanks-seaOFmarans