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Both I think, but the only hatcherys available to deliver here is Meyers and hoovers

These do look really close to him Aswell, the little striped hackle feathers match at least, idk about his beak tho. My little guy has such a short thick beak

Yeah you might be right! When I pull up the silver duck wing variety, they also have the lighter striped hackles that he has growing, is there any way to tell male to female on them?

Just some ruffles

I got them from a massive festival here, they had all kinds and they had blue yokohamas but they still looked lighter in color vs the one I have.

My other little Phoenix is pretty vastly different, could they be like male vs female? Here is my one I know for sure is a phoenix next to the "yokohama"

(UPDATE!) after some comparisons and searching it looks to be a Silver duck-wing yokohama! Thank you to all who helped me today love you!!) So I had gotten an order of several rare chicken breeds, all straight run 3 day old babies. I had gotten a sumatra, a sultan, a phoenix, a white crested...