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About those buckeyes........for what I believe is the first time in history, Shumaker farms won Grand Champion of an APA sanctioned show over the weekend with a buckeye cock. I believe multiple judges thought his wing carriage was spot on. Just thought I would share the news and congratulate him...

Tailfeathers, maybe you could get permission to post those pics and have a discussion here about those said birds.

Does he hunt mice and roar like a dinosaur?

I don't know any breeders who would say that color is more important than type. There have been disagreements between breeders as to whether or not the slate bar is supposed to be there. Should is the word used in the SOP. This thread is about the SOP therefore my question to Walt was answered...

Thank you for your input Walt.

There is no perfect type or perfect color. Nor is there a perfect buckeye.

I have a hypothetical question for Walt. If you have two identical buckeyes, the only difference is one has a well defined slate bar and one does not, who wins? Remember everything else is identical.

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