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Walt is correct and a lot of those people will not sell you their culls so quality birds were limited and you have to be quick if not you have to be patient. I found it difficult to buy just a few birds when I started orpingtons and even had to wait till something became available. With the...

I believe Dick Horst and Danny Padgett have APA Oprington blues they may have some pictures on their website.

Walt I agree with you not all the imports are perfect I can bare witness to that. Some are super and some are just good stew.