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From what I have read on the subject, "Malay" has had a history of being a fairly loose term itself. The Malays that we have now are most certainly a European creation. During the poultry craze in England, when people would crowd the docks looking for exotic fowl from arriving ships, I'm sure...

In research that I have done, I have found that the terms "aseel", "pheasant malay", and "Indian Game" were used pretty much interchangeably in the late 1800s. They could be referring to anything from a pure Aseel imported from the orient, to any cross thereof, which would include what would...

She said that she thought that the BBR games had "Indian Game" in them. Is that gamefowl from India, or is that what later was known as Cornish? With what the cornish looked like at that time, would anybody know the difference? In the unlikely event that the guy was playing around with some...

The history states that she wanted more activity in her chickens, so she went to a breeder of black breasted red games. She found out later that the stock she got from him had "indian game" in them. No breeder of games would have been using Cornish. Cornish are not game, and never have been...

That is probably another trait that buckeyes get from the "indian game" influence. One of the first things that drew me to the Asils was the ability to be placed somewhere and they just stay there like they were a statue. Very laid back with little natural fear of humans.

The BBR looks like he carries a little more game blood than the other one, but I don't think he is pure, looks like 3/4. I've done a lot of game crossing on utility breeds, you can get some pretty hardy and productive birds at 1/4 to 1/2 game blood. That is why I started reading about the...

Those games look more like leghorn mixes to me. Tail, build and leg station doesn't look right. No telling what they might throw. The mystery rooster does have a heavy buckeye build to him though.

Some people theorize that the "malayoid" fowl had a different ancestor than the "bankivoid" fowl. Malay, Shamo, Thai, Asil, Ga Noi all have a very similar appearance. They also have some other traits in common, marrow filled bones, less flight response/no fear of humans, and the different skull...

Quote: Cornish is a recent mix. The traits you describe are asil traits. There were many more asil and asil influenced games in the country at that time than Cornish. Asil were mentioned as far back as 1822 in the US, Cornish weren't even a breed in England at that time. But true, I believe...

Interesting read. I think it would be a stretch to infer that there was Cornish present based on the written history of the breed's founder. While "Indian Game" was used at the time to refer to what we know as Cornish, it was also used to describe Asils, Shamo and other birds of the time either...

Ok, so I went and did some reading. On Wikipedia it says that they were developed using buff cochin, barred rock, and later BBR game. BBR game is not Cornish, (the fowl in my avatar would fall under the category BBR Game). I took it with a grain of salt, because it is Wikipedia after all. They...

Quote: Quote: Was Cornish used to make buckeyes?