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  1. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    History of the Anconas By Roy William Van Hoesen (1915) http://tinyurl.com/n5rnyuv 1954 Poultry Bibliography book: "Van Hoesen, R. W. History of the Anconas. D. 1915. London. Subsequent edits, published at Franklinville, N. Y. 6x9. 89 p. Paper. $4-$6. The leading work on the Ancona, and...
  2. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Hi, Sent you a private message on BYC. Best, Karen
  3. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    What is your breed? ~~Originally Posted by nepoisopen View Post I'm having a hard time finding an answer in the searches for a stupidly basic question. When breeding to SOP Standards, how does one judge if the birds are meeting weight standards? I understand that a cockerel is a male bird less...
  4. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Quote: Judge Card talks about this in his "Breeding Laws" book. How this shows an outgoing of color strength and how to fix it. Just a thought, Karen
  5. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Quote: Hi Hughes Fowl Farm, Just a note to let you know, on one is putting you off. It's just that the SOP is such an excellent book, so refined in nature of its education, it's just simply the very best answer to your questions. I spent months looking for information on my breed Then I...
  6. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Looking forward to more Campine pictures. What a lovely breed. Too complicated for me, smile. I can do two color variables, but 3 is too much for me. Best, Karen
  7. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Quote: Yes indeed. I saw this darker salmon breast on some Golden Salmon Marans I was raising. Improper for them, proper for Welsummer. It's almost like they had an extra shot of autosomal red . I had thought at the time, it was a hetero Mh gene. But now I see from Reeder that wildtype does...
  8. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Of interest to all breeding e+ and eWh based poultry Hi, Ok, I know I have been asking lot of questions about genomes, Ar+ and the salmon breast of the hen. Struggling to understand the differences in genome nomenclature between experts. It seemed for a while as if those who cleave to Brain...
  9. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Quote: Thank you for the explanation! I had not read this about the width of feather. This is a big help with my Sussex breeding! Thanks, Karen
  10. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    The genome of the Welsumer is: e+/e+ s+/s+ Ar+/Ar+ Mh/Mh The genetic name: Mahogany Gold Bankiva partridge. Do you include the Ar+/Ar+ because it is believed to be an integral part of the salmon breast? Or because Ar+/Ar+ acts in addition to a salmon breast which is caused by the s+/s+ on the...
  11. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    The genome of the Welsumer is: e+/e+ s+/s+ Ar+/Ar+ Mh/Mh The genetic name: Mahogany Gold Bankiva partridge. Do you include the Ar+/Ar+ because it is believed to be an integral part of the salmon breast? Or because Ar+/Ar+ acts in addition to a salmon breast which is caused by the s+/s+ on the...
  12. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Do Wellies have a striped saddle? Is a Wellie more like a Light Leghorn or a Dark Leghorn in coloring? Are Wellies eb ( Brown ) locus based or e+ ( wildtype ) locus based? What is the genome for the Wellie ? Thanks, Karen
  13. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Quote: Ok, this is something I notice repeatedly in different breeds. See the angle of the shanks? The more V shaped the bird is ( re: Langshan), the more the shanks are at right angles to the ground. The more breast, and depth of body, (from top of back to bottom of rear, and length of...
  14. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Regarding Piets' 11 pictures above: : wow... Just fill the eye. Karen
  15. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Quote: Yes, yes, yes!! I wish all the breeders would show the wings like this! It is so instructive. Esp. when the SOP explains about how such and such feathers should have such and such colors, placed here and there. Thank you! Karen
  16. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Quote: They should be extremely difficult to change and only with solid, historical evidence from a large portion of the breeders/fancy in that breed This prevents folk from changing the SOP to suit the traits of a strain or line or cadre of breeders. Best, Karen
  17. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Quote: That's a great way to judge. I did find out one interesting thing. When I stopped fault-judging and started virtue-judging, I suddenly found it much easier to appreciate balance and symmetry in an animal. It was like my mind was using the best set of basic parameter for the job. Faults...
  18. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    New question. If cushions show up in the juvenile plumage, are they apt to get smaller in the adult plumage? Thanks, Karen
  19. 3riverschick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Quote: I think it most always that way with new animal breeders. It is easiest to learn the fine points of a breed. Most usually, I think other breeders teach newcomers by fault-finding, using the minor hallmarks as examples. So the newcomers start out with wrong thinking, both fault-finding (...
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