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If you dub them they could be what your looking for.

That is a weird way to keep a thread on track. But OK.

Orientals have a downward pointed tail.

Why did you sad face all my posts?

I think the same. But is there a chicken that has a beak that big? We might need to cross in ducks.

That is fine.

Yeah, I am just getting into orientals. So my knowledge is limited. But like Malays there are some pretty passive lines of asils. A quality most breeders breed out. The difference is Malay breeders (the ones I have been made aware of) breed for more body type, and less attitude. But we can...

I agree with everything you have said about their history, but what I am talking about is currant Malays. They are not game, despite their being classified as gamefowl. Malays were at some point asils (as were all oriental gamefowl.) But like dogs are to wolves they are far removed from that...

They are still considered gamefowl, but so are OEGB. Asils will fight to the death from a week old (so I've heard, my asil thia mixes fought that young but they would still run) Maylay males can be housed together permanently. As you do with yours.

Not really, they were at some point but now they are aren't game, and are much bigger.

Asils have parrot beak too.