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Quote: Far as I remember, Barb Piper doesn't do poultry at all anymore. However, Duane Urch is the only good source of LF Mottled Houdans, whom I believe relate to Piper's birds.

Quote: I'll be honest with you - He does. He has the same upright body, same breast, same tail as even my Tolbunt cockerel. He need as a more horizontal body, a deeper chest, - He needs to look like a truly dual purpose bird with 5 toes, beard/muffs, and a crest. As said, still better...

Quote: Would love to see him then. I'm a huge fan of Houdans and the preservation of them, but I'm not a fan of the commercialized, common, and dare I say ruined version hatcheries made out of them.

Search up and read back on some old topics on Mottled Houdans. You'll notice that none in the US are truly up to par, although color isn't really a matter right now. What is, is the body. It is a little hard to say but so far it seems he's okay, not enough breast, and it is hard to judge the...