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wow your pouters sound like they would bring something a bit better to the table (no pun intended in some cases.. lol), and ive not seen any pouters ect in the states that were good or used for more than show. spanish neighbors told me they used them to ransom and get dinner in old countries...

any info or especially personal experiance to learn all about them? im coming up empty on any info for them, except to buy them..

im envious of your pigeon collection, and would love to see more of them.

Im decently close to you OP/shaolin, and could probably get or get you in touch with relatively close people that keep certain breeds, but then craigslist is a decent resource to try (just be sure to put your area code in this format instead of putting totally out, as bots ect will otherwise...