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this is a quote from an email from "bluedogsonly" the vet who does the decrowing surgery. "All medications have side effects. I know lidocaine, and assume bupivicaine etc is toxic to birds. I have read a little on meloxicam (a NSAID) for birds but haven't ever used it. I have used flunixine...

im guessing its safe to say that lidocaine is toxic and shouldn't be used. benzocaine, and procaine are safe in small doses, but should be used with caution? i only know one vet on here for sure, he does decrowing surgery on roosters. i will try to invite his input, not sure what he can...

for the moment, i am going to assume the wound wash containing lidocaine caused a reaction because it was applied directly to a skull? im no expert here, but since lidocane messes with our neurological system, and i applied it directly to the skull cap that it absorbed and literally overdosed...

do you have any ideas of what the safe dosage levels are? how would you cut the dosages in topical lotions (saline, alcohol, etc)? im assuming with blood stop powders you could use corn startch.

speckledhen is one of the people i was referring to earlier. i trust her information, just trying to find the borders on what is toxic and what isnt. that could open a whole new line of possible treatments for us all.

i was once recommended a product by a vet containing lidocaine for a pheasant. when i recommended it on here, just after joining; i was told it was toxic to birds. i can say the pheasant did die, but i am uncertain if it was the lidocaine or the injury. the symptoms were similar to what...