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  1. rebrascora

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    Thanks for sharing. Poor girl must have been in a lot of discomfort with all that lash egg mass inside her. Well done for helping her pass and also for being open minded enough to take a look inside her. It is always a comfort to me to know I did the right thing by euthanizing, when I find...
  2. rebrascora

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    Also, part of the kidney's function is to regulate glucose in the blood. Perhaps that might explain why the bird has such heavy fat deposits when she had a balanced diet. It was interesting reading more about the function of the kidneys and to learn that the cloaca reabsorbs a significant...
  3. rebrascora

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    I keep coming back to it being the kidneys.... the colour and structure of that dark mass looks like kidney lobes and the blood tinged clear liquid poop makes me think urinary infection.... Did she have any reddening and or swelling of the legs and how much breast and leg muscle did she have...
  4. rebrascora

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    I doubt you will get any more knowledgeable people on another thread than those that frequent this thread. It may just take longer for people to see it and comment. A possibility might be to contact your state ag dept or veterinary college and see if they will take a look at the photos via email...
  5. rebrascora

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    Hi. I would have to agree that the huge amount of fat has certainly been a contributing factor as @Wyorp Rock has outlined. To see a thick layer of it attached to the intestinal membrane all along it's length like that is quite astonishing in a relatively young bird. It is odd that there is a...
  6. rebrascora

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    The OP states clearly in his original post that the birds grew well and were a good weight.... which seems to be the opposite of what aflatoxin poisoning would cause from that "clinical signs" quote indicates and suggests it may still be dietary afterall. How much scratch was being fed and from...
  7. rebrascora

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    @Wyorp Rock That is a very good idea although reading through the link Kathy posted there is no mention of fatty deposits other than in the liver itself as a result of aflatoxin poisoning. Below is an extract from that link Clinical signs the most economically significant effects in growing...
  8. rebrascora

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    It is worth mentioning in case others are not aware of the original post, but @Jspenc02 has lost 3 birds in recent days, with similar symptoms, so this is sadly not a one off situation. If it is dietary, it is quite surprising that they have died in such a short space of time. I'm not familiar...
  9. rebrascora

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    How much scratch were you feeding them? I'm amazed that they got that fat on mostly layer pellets of crumbles. Were they getting any other treats? I had a big problem with rats last year and they were even coming through the day and jumping up on the hanging feeder. Removing the feeder at night...
  10. rebrascora

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    I'm not sure what breed these girls are that you are having problems with but Leghorns are naturally more flighty, energetic birds, so they may be burning off the carbohydrate calories better. Heavier dual purpose birds like Sussex, Orpingtons etc will be more prone to Fatty Liver Disease...
  11. rebrascora

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    @Jspenc02 Hi again and well done for investigating these deaths further. I know it is a bit daunting cutting a bird open for the first time. You did a good job.:thumbsup The two things that strike me are the same as Kathy (@casportpony ) mentions:- The colour of the liver and the large amount...
  12. rebrascora

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    So sorry for your loss, but well done on opening her up to investigate the cause and thanks for posting a video of it. I agree it's salpingitis. Poor girl! That whole pink lumpy section that you handle and eventually cut into is her oviduct and it is packed with lash eggs, which are infected egg...
  13. rebrascora

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    Just had a look through that link on page 7 of this thread to the Merck Vet Manual and wonder if he may have had Hepatitis/Hydropericardium syndrome. It appears that it affects youngsters at 3-6 weeks but perhaps he survived it but was left with residual damage to the heart. It might explain why...
  14. rebrascora

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    OK, I have a necropsy submission for this thread. I had limited time so it is not a comprehensive necropsy, just looking at the areas I suspected....ie major organs. The subject was an adult blue copper Marans cock bird that was approx 16-18 months old.... he was gifted to me a year ago with 2...
  15. rebrascora

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    @Wonderwend Yes, I'm still pretty made up about it, but Vippy really has to take credit for being so resilient. I was pretty certain she would die after aspirating her vomit and here in the UK, if I wanted antibiotics, it would have to be a vets visit, which I had already ruled out, so I was...
  16. rebrascora

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    Quote: @Wonderwend Thanks for asking....Vippy is absolutely great. She started laying again exactly 2 weeks after surgery and it was on my birthday too....I couldn't have got a better present! I had problems reintegrating her back into the pen although there was no issue or aggression at all...
  17. rebrascora

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    Thanks for the supportive comments but all credit has to go to the people who made the videos on You Tube I watched, particularly this one :- I intend to create a new thread at some point to document it all in the hope that it may encourage others to take this final step when all else has...
  18. rebrascora

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    Regarding the crop surgery, it was a case of do or die. I had been doing all the non intrusive stuff like oil and massage and vomiting for nearly a week and she was so emaciated I knew she wouldn't last much longer, especially when she lost interest in food. I can't afford vets for my chickens...
  19. rebrascora

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    Many thanks for posting the link to those videos. I haven't had time to watch them all yet but I am hoping they will help me do a more thorough and professional job on future chicken post mortem exams. It really is fascinating opening them up once you get past the emotional aspect of it and it...
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