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Chris, I'll take your word in regard to the Chronicle, but it is listed on the RIRCA web pages as the RIR Club Chronicle. I'm not a member and it really is a moot point. Makes me wonder why the breed isn't called the MA Red, as that was the first state the future breed was shown. Things that...

Would you like to post where you got this information from? I'm sure some Red breeders would like to read it considering that News Letter put out by the club is still/ was called the, "The Red Club Chronicle" and not the Rhode Island Red Club Chronicle. I got this information from one of the...

Chris, since neither of us were there, I can only go off history. The RIR birds were being developed for a specific purpose regionally. Subsequently, due to the success of the desired results the bird became popular outside of the region. Some smart breeders capitalized on the popularity and...

Thanks Chris for clarifying my sloppy writing. My point in that statement was that the folks in RI & MA were calling their birds RIRs before the APA recognized the breed and even before the 6 poultry men met in the tavern on a stormy night to establish the desire breeding and production...

I stand by my opinion that a breed is a breed. I have already stipulated that not all of a breed fit into the "Standard of Perfection" that a show bird is judged on. Because a RIR is not as dark as the judge would like it does not disqualify it from being a RIR. It just means it does not fit...

Well Bob, I hate to hear your leaving the debate, but in response to your statement; you say that production reds (which I am assuming you mean RIRs bred for production) have been cross bred through the years. I do not have any proof of that and the two hatcheries that I use both will provide...

This is definitely an opinionated group, which is NOT a bad thing. I stand by my thought that a breed is a breed. Weather they all meet specific, man made standards or not. Let me just ask this question. What is the purpose for these cosmetic standards? Are they standards man thinks better...

This has surely been an interesting thread. I just have to comment from a different perspective. I am new to raising chickens, and yes I have RIR birds that lay LOTS of big eggs. But on to my question. Is not RIR a breed? If we were speaking of dogs it wouldn't be much different. A beagle...