Some bobwhite coloring ideas!!!

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I recently had hatched bobwhite chicks and was looking to see if there were other colors. Well there is and I had to share a few of my favorites.

The black bobwhite:
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White Bobwhite:
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Snowflake Bobwhite:
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I need some help and some ideas on how to make a pied/painted bobwhite!

Here we can just talk about making new colors, or just about quail period! :) :D
 
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I found the oddest type of quail does anyone know what it is or what breed it is?

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Well I didn't even know that bobwhite could be bred for color... I figured a bobs a Bob, just maybe different characteristics depending on region.... But those snowy ones made me curious if maybe they are likeca Ptarmigan, molt into winter feather for snow cover?

I haven't had time to look further yet, but here's one, a "european".... Coloring is different than ours, most likely because ours are in a semi arid setting, where these are in more forested climates...

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*edit:..Oh THIS is a " northern "

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Snowflake bobwhites do not occur in the wild. Snowflakes are a mutation that happened on the Gunrunner Farm (they train gun dogs) You can read about the origin of the mutation here. The silver coturnix was the same kind of thing. Every silver coturnix today is descended from a single bird that appeared in Belgium in the 1970s. You can often manipulate color patterns in game birds but outright changing the entire body color or creating a new mutation is something that you can't just decide you're going to accomplish and then expect results from it. Mutations happen out of sheer mathematical luck in most cases. Approach it with the idea of manipulating an existing color and you'll likely see a lot better results.
 
Snowflake bobwhites do not occur in the wild. Snowflakes are a mutation that happened on the Gunrunner Farm (they train gun dogs) You can read about the origin of the mutation here. The silver coturnix was the same kind of thing. Every silver coturnix today is descended from a single bird that appeared in Belgium in the 1970s. You can often manipulate color patterns in game birds but outright changing the entire body color or creating a new mutation is something that you can't just decide you're going to accomplish and then expect results from it. Mutations happen out of sheer mathematical luck in most cases. Approach it with the idea of manipulating an existing color and you'll likely see a lot better results. 


Do you mean like trying to breed OUT the red?

I'll go look at that link; thanks for sharing :)
 
I want to make a pied or painted color... I was thinking of mixing the northern color with the whites to see if I get the white patches I'm looking for. But what do you guys think
 
I want to make a pied or painted color... I was thinking of mixing the northern color with the whites to see if I get the white patches I'm looking for. But what do you guys think


Well...your F1 generation would be a mix of all sorts of blends... If you bred those back to a solid white, you might be able to start seeing a pattern bybthe 3rd generation...MAYBE.... A pied would be almost impossible unless there were some genes in bobwhite to even manipulate... There are in Cotournix, I think...

It's possible...but it would take more back crossing than just one generation, and even then, it would probably still be a random 25% and not entirely ever "breed true"....
 

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