First time hatching and Murphy's Law seems to be in full effect

Naliez

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Our set up goes so far goes something like this:
We have a brand new Little Giant, still-air, foam incubator (the one people love to hate) without an egg turner, as per our current budget allowed. We attached a computer fan to the inside of the incubator, so it does have circulation now. I ordered 5 bantam Silkie eggs and 5 Serama eggs from eBay. We live in NC and the eggs were shipped from Tennessee, so not a huge traveling distance, but it's hot, humid and the eggs took 5 days to get here. We let the eggs rest, pointy side down, overnight and have them in the egg carton in the incubator with a block under one side to tip the eggs at an angle. I switch the block from side to side 3 times a day with at least 8 hours between turning times. I candled the eggs before they went in, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for. There are a few that look obviously scrambled, (the air bubble looks runny and rolls easily from end to end), a couple look like they're solid, (dark spot in the middle and not moving around when tipped) but I'm not sure if I'm seeing the air pocket or not and then there are a few that look clear. None of them seem too porous, like the pictures I've seen and they are not damaged or cracked. I don't have a scale to weigh them right now and honestly I kind of have no idea what's going on. I read everything I could, but there is definitely no substitute for experience. The incubator holds steady at around 99.7, but the humidity is too high and fluctuates a lot, (50-60%) even though all the vents are open, I took the water out, and even put a bowl of salt in the incubator. I don't have a dehumidifier, but the incubator is in a dark, draft-free room. Today is day 3 and I managed to get the humidity down to stay around 50%. I feel like I am probably not going to get a hatch out of this small batch, with the rough start and everything, but I'm not going to toss them until I give them a few days and/or until I am certain of what I am looking at when I candle them. I realize that shipped, bantam and Serama eggs are all slightly more difficult to hatch and putting them in the Little Giant incubator isn't exactly helping to increase my chances at getting a hatch.
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Anyway, this is my current set up and while I don't expect a whole lot out of my first attempt at hatching, I would like at least ONE to hatch to let me know that I am not completely messing this thing up! Thanks for reading! I will give updates and happily accept any encouragement and/or advice you may have! Have a great day, my chicken-loving friends!
 
Our set up goes so far goes something like this:
We have a brand new Little Giant, still-air, foam incubator (the one people love to hate) without an egg turner, as per our current budget allowed. We attached a computer fan to the inside of the incubator, so it does have circulation now. I ordered 5 bantam Silkie eggs and 5 Serama eggs from eBay. We live in NC and the eggs were shipped from Tennessee, so not a huge traveling distance, but it's hot, humid and the eggs took 5 days to get here. We let the eggs rest, pointy side down, overnight and have them in the egg carton in the incubator with a block under one side to tip the eggs at an angle. I switch the block from side to side 3 times a day with at least 8 hours between turning times. I candled the eggs before they went in, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for. There are a few that look obviously scrambled, (the air bubble looks runny and rolls easily from end to end), a couple look like they're solid, (dark spot in the middle and not moving around when tipped) but I'm not sure if I'm seeing the air pocket or not and then there are a few that look clear. None of them seem too porous, like the pictures I've seen and they are not damaged or cracked. I don't have a scale to weigh them right now and honestly I kind of have no idea what's going on. I read everything I could, but there is definitely no substitute for experience. The incubator holds steady at around 99.7, but the humidity is too high and fluctuates a lot, (50-60%) even though all the vents are open, I took the water out, and even put a bowl of salt in the incubator. I don't have a dehumidifier, but the incubator is in a dark, draft-free room. Today is day 3 and I managed to get the humidity down to stay around 50%. I feel like I am probably not going to get a hatch out of this small batch, with the rough start and everything, but I'm not going to toss them until I give them a few days and/or until I am certain of what I am looking at when I candle them. I realize that shipped, bantam and Serama eggs are all slightly more difficult to hatch and putting them in the Little Giant incubator isn't exactly helping to increase my chances at getting a hatch.
idunno.gif
Anyway, this is my current set up and while I don't expect a whole lot out of my first attempt at hatching, I would like at least ONE to hatch to let me know that I am not completely messing this thing up! Thanks for reading! I will give updates and happily accept any encouragement and/or advice you may have! Have a great day, my chicken-loving friends!
HI!! First, have you checked the hygrometer/thermometers for accuracy?? Never trust an unchecked thermometer or the gages on the incubator (especially the LG 9300). Many people that do shipped eggs recommend not turning the eggs the first 3-5 days (I've even heard up to 7, but I'd be a little nervouse going 7) to give the air cells time to re-attatch.

If the temp is accurate, that's great, especially if it holds steady at that. Humidity, my opinion is a bit high. Most styro users have much better luck with low humidity incubation. I do understand that according to your hygrometer you're having a hard time getting it lower than that. Best thing you can do is monitor the air cells to see how the eggs are doing with the humidity. Hopefully this link will help you on figuring out how to monitor your air cells: http://letsraisechickens.weebly.com...anuals-understanding-and-controlling-humidity

Now, if you are at day three, I wouldn't get too worried as many people can't make out the development that early. This is a great candling thread to compare to: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...g-candling-pics-progression-though-incubation.

I use the LG 9200 rather successfully. I use no less than 2 thermometers in my bator and run the low humidity method. The incubator, whether it's still or forced air will usually have cool/hot spots, so having a couple different thermometers (that are accurate) can also help to pinpoint trouble areas in the bator. It's a bit tricky getting the hang of the LGs when using local eggs, so you have quite a challenge with shipped silkie/seramas. I wish you the best of luck with your hatch.
 
So, What happened?
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I just found this post and have my first attempt to hatch sitting on my kitchen table. Mine is full of mixed breed eggs and five eggs from my neighbor. My humidity seems a mystery to me. I am using a used LG with turner and finally figured out how to gwet the temperature to stabilize. Mine now wears a big bath towel and I shove the lid toward the cool side so no air escapes. I also had a couple of hours where the sensor got closed Outside the 'bator and the heater made it 130 degrees inside. I have little hope for the eggs it contained when that happened but haven't removed them either!
 
Okay, so I got a second thermometer/Hydrometer and they have different readings. What do I do now? How do I calibrate? They're both digital.
Also, I candled and on a few I think I'm seeing red veins. There is definitely something happening.
 
Also, I'm adding 18 barnyard mix eggs today. They're local, so they already have a better chance. How would a staggered hatch work out?
 
So, What happened? :idunno I just found this post and have my first attempt to hatch sitting on my kitchen table. Mine is full of mixed breed eggs and five eggs from my neighbor. My humidity seems a mystery to me. I am using a used LG with turner and finally figured out how to gwet the temperature to stabilize. Mine now wears a big bath towel and I shove the lid toward the cool side so no air escapes. I also had a couple of hours where the sensor got closed Outside the 'bator and the heater made it 130 degrees inside. I have little hope for the eggs it contained when that happened but haven't removed them either!

So far, not a whole lot has happened. What day are you on? 130 seems like that might cook them, but eggs are amazingly resilient, so you never know. Today is day 4 for me. I'll post pics later of what looks to me like veins/development. We can compare candling pics!
 
So far, not a whole lot has happened. What day are you on? 130 seems like that might cook them, but eggs are amazingly resilient, so you never know. Today is day 4 for me. I'll post pics later of what looks to me like veins/development. We can compare candling pics!
The first 11 eggs went in on the 2nd of August. After that, I just added any nice looking eggs I got, plus the neighbor gave me five from her coop. I think 2 were from her Lavender Orpington hen but her pen mates are Favorelle and she thought the other eggs could be from them. I have one spot left on the turner now and I did hold off putting any in for a few days while waiting for the neighbor's eggs. I am getting another used, LG still air Monday and will set it up as a lock down but neglected to record the dates to do that and now I realise that is an important step.
I candled last night on the first 14 eggs and could see some veins on a few. The BCM are so dark-colored, they are all a mystery. I just used a little LED flashlight and my hand, but got excited when I was able to discern something.
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One of the light blue eggs is very round and it has been air side down for the first week or ten days. I turned it over and put it back in. Another one has a peck crack in it but it looks like something is happening in there and I don't smell anything so I left them all in there. Alas, I didn't take any pictures.
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It seems germane to get what I was doing done and I am not sure I could manage an egg, my phone, and the flashlight without dropping an egg!
 
Okay, so I got a second thermometer/Hydrometer and they have different readings. What do I do now? How do I calibrate? They're both digital.
Also, I candled and on a few I think I'm seeing red veins. There is definitely something happening.


Also, I'm adding 18 barnyard mix eggs today. They're local, so they already have a better chance. How would a staggered hatch work out?
The best way to check a digital is to test a mercury/glass incubator (using the ice water method) to find it's accuracy and then compare them inside the bator. Hygrometers are checked using the salt slush method usually. As for staggered hatches, I'm not an advocate w/o a seperate hatcher due to the humidity needs, but many make it work.
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/cigar-101/article/29/salt-test for hygrometer
 
Okay, so I got a second thermometer/Hydrometer and they have different readings. What do I do now? How do I calibrate? They're both digital.
Also, I candled and on a few I think I'm seeing red veins. There is definitely something happening.

The way I've checked mine is take a small cap from coke or water bottle and fill it with salt. Then add a few drops of water to the salt without dissolving it and place the cap full of salt and hygrometer in a ziplock bag and leave for about 6 hours. Should reach a even 75% if it does not you just add or subtract the number your hygrometer shows from 75 and always remember that number. That number is how off yours is and just add it each time you do a reading. Hope I wasn't to confusing lol.
 
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