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silkie/frizzle genetics and colors?

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So first off, because I know this is a thread section probably geared towards breed perfection , I want to say I'm not breeding my chickens for quality. I'm doing so for fun, and mainly because my favorite roo is getting old and I want some of his babies. I'll be keeping all of them ( and it'll only be a few eggs because I want to get some eggs from my Mille fleurs to hatch as well) my chickens are not breed perfection, most are hatchery birds or birds purchased at feed stores , small farms or 4-H fairs, ( although I used to show my older chickens ) , they are just my pets whom I love very much. The reason I'm posting here is that genetics is mentioned here, and maybe someone can answer some of my questions.

I have a year old red frizzle Cochin bantam hen whom I want to breed with my splash?/ blue bearded silkie rooster ( he was sold as a baby as a splash but turned out to be more blue and darker than a splash)

If everything I have read is correct, their offspring has a chance of being a 'sizzle' correct? And that is a 40% change?

Also what colors would they produce? When my buff oprington hatched chicks from her and my other blue silkie they ended up turning grey/black with light brown/golden/orange coloring around their necks. Would this be similar to what theses two would create, but with 'red' instead?

Again I really don't care how unpretty these offspring look, I just want to hatch for fun + get some babies out of my favorite roo ( I'd breed him with another silkie if I had a hen- I only have silkie babies that might be pullets, no hens.) And I'm just curious what the offspring 'should' look like.
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So first off, because I know this is a thread section probably geared towards breed perfection , I want to say I'm not breeding my chickens for quality. I'm doing so for fun, and mainly because my favorite roo is getting old and I want some of his babies. I'll be keeping all of them ( and it'll only be a few eggs because I want to get some eggs from my Mille fleurs to hatch as well) my chickens are not breed perfection, most are hatchery birds or birds purchased at feed stores , small farms or 4-H fairs, ( although I used to show my older chickens ) , they are just my pets whom I love very much. The reason I'm posting here is that genetics is mentioned here, and maybe someone can answer some of my questions.

I have a year old red frizzle Cochin bantam hen whom I want to breed with my splash?/ blue bearded silkie rooster ( he was sold as a baby as a splash but turned out to be more blue and darker than a splash)

If everything I have read is correct, their offspring has a chance of being a 'sizzle' correct? And that is a 40% change?

Also what colors would they produce? When my buff oprington hatched chicks from her and my other blue silkie they ended up turning grey/black with light brown/golden/orange coloring around their necks. Would this be similar to what theses two would create, but with 'red' instead?

Again I really don't care how unpretty these offspring look, I just want to hatch for fun + get some babies out of my favorite roo ( I'd breed him with another silkie if I had a hen- I only have silkie babies that might be pullets, no hens.) And I'm just curious what the offspring 'should' look like.

 

The silkie trait is recessive so if your cross a frizzle with silkie, some of the offspring will be frizzled and others will be normal feathered.

I an assuming the sikie carries two dominant frizzle modifiers. 

 

yes the offspring hackles should be a red color,

 

cross the frizzled offspring to a silkie to produce some sizzles.


Edited by Wappoke - 4/10/16 at 3:20pm
post #3 of 4
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Oh okay I see.

I don't know genetics very well, so I can't give you a yay or nay on the assumption my silkie boy carries dominant frizzle modifiers.

But thank you! In about a week I'm going to breed them and start collecting my hens eggs so having an idea what might hatch is really cool smile.png

And the breeding back to a silkie is to get back the silkie characteristics right? I honestly have not done much research on frizzles/sizzles/etc beyond knowing the names and that you shouldn't cross two frizzles because the feathers become brittle.
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yes back crossing to a silkie will restore the silkie trait in some of the offspring. Hutts research concerning the recessive modifier of frizzle indicated that the gene was found in 11 different breeds he tested so I assume that many birds carry the modifying genes. 


Edited by Wappoke - 4/11/16 at 3:31pm
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