geese hatching trouble, help!

Good evening, I was wanting to get some opinions of what could have possibly went wrong on this hatch. I used these exact settings last year and had great success! I had several viable toulouse eggs in my incubator. I have a forced air incubator, ran the temp. at 99.5 and humidity stayed between 60 and 65%, but I had a couple nights where everything was fine when I went to bed and when I woke up the humidity was in the 20's I have automatic turners that turn the eggs every two hours and then I hand turned them 5 times a day also. Since they are in the automatic turners they are pointy side down like a chicken egg would be. Day 25 came, I stopped turning, candled them, everything looked great, they were moving and air cells looked good, but it is now day 30 for four of them and still no sign of pipping, so I candled them and didn't see any movement, so I'm assuming they passed. The other eggs are on days 28 and 29 and out of fear they had died too I checked them, they are moving as of now, but I'm afraid I might lose them too, any ideas of what went wrong or what I could do to make sure I don't lose these last three? Please help!

I was also reading at this site.... http://www.minkhollow.ca/mhf/doku.php?id=farm:handbook that they actually turn their eggs through lockdown until the first pip and it increases their hatch rate, so I was wondering if anyone else has done this and if it indeed does increase hatch rate?

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I read somewhere to stop turning earlier with geese because of the long neck. I had a lot of movement with my Cotton Patch on day 25, so stopped turning them. I had 4 out of 5 hatch so far.

I did quit turning them on day 25. They all ended up passing, so I opened them up and they all looked pretty healthy. They were all in the hatching position except for one that had it's head at the small end of the egg. None had internally pipped and they all still had their yolks unabsorbed. I'm totally clueless here other than maybe it was b/c after getting a new thermometer I realized the one's I was using were reading a degree low, so instead of it being 99.5 it was 98.5... supposedly, but would that have that much affect to where I would lose them all? I also checked my hygrometers and it looked like they were all reading correctly. I had a bunch of chicken eggs in there as well and they all hatched no problem. I put some more eggs in and took them out of the automatic turners (I had them in here and they were positioned small end down like a chicken egg) and I'm hand turning 7 times a day and raised it a degree. The temp is holding between 99.5 and 100. I also put my humidity down between 55-60 percent instead of 60-65. I'm hoping I have better luck this round.

Well, I got better "luck" with lower humidity after reading about 'dry hatch'. I use a Genesis, it gets dry easy anyway. But I had a lot of eggs go that way a couple hatches ago, and found ; if fertile, they do better dryer.(geese only need about 30-40% humidity.)And I only turned twice a day. I also read, that they do better with large end slightly raised, but on their sides. 98.5 is a bit low.... I also left them in the Genesis with other duck eggs, till they pipped , then moved to still air to hatch.... but some actually hatched quicker than I thought in the Genesis...

I really appreciate your help, I've been keeping my humidity between 55-60 and temp between 99.5 and 100, but maybe I'll lower the humidity, at this point I'm willing to do anything to have some hatch. I'm a little worried about a dry hatch though, b/c I've ready on a lot of informational sites that waterfowl need more humidity. This can be so frustrating

Me too. I followed the book for 3 years, and raised humidity....and sprayed ..... but my hatching percentage was dismal..... so I tried it in two different incubartors, and the Genesis hatched more and dryer.... the still air Hovabator 1/2 as much...and the geese that hatched out in the Genesis , got out quicker....soooo, I am using my Gensis to incubate and then I move them to the still air with higher humidity, but not nearly as high as the 65-70% I used in the first years.....