Brahma Thread - Page 493

Tim,

I just went through all of your Brahma photos. My gosh they're all so beautiful! The roo in the first couple of frames, is he what they call a Dark Brahma? Really gorgeous! Thanks for sharing your expertise as well as the photos. I'm super impressed.

I don't think anyone will take offense to your opinions. That's what all of us are expressing, y'know?

Thanks again,

Vicki

Thanks. Yes, those are large Darks. We sold the last of them at the Shawnee show. A trio for 75 dollars. I need to get marketing advice from Cheryl I suppose. I only breed and exhibit Bantam Buffs and lights now. Had bantam and large Darks. Hard to maintain high quality with too many breeds/varieties. Bantam Buffs and Lights are my first love. My Son has bantam Cornish, Darks and Whites.

Tim

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Originally Posted by Tim63 

If you click on my profile there are over a hundred assorted photos. The main word one would use to describe a Brahma is WIDE. Their head should be WIDE, their back should be WIDE. The tail should be well spread and resemble an inverted "U". The APA recognizes three varieties of Brahmas in Bantam and Large....Buff, Dark, Light. The ABA recognizes five varieties of Bantam Brahmas, Light, Buff, Dark, White, and Black. White are never seen at shows and Blacks seldom. Partridge is a Non-recognized variety in Large and Bantam that are seen fairly frequently at shows. There is a group working to have Large Partridge Brahmas recognized. I believe they are calling them "Gold Partridge" as they are a bit lighter than the traditional "partridge" variety found in other breeds.

  I would recommend anyone that is truly interested in raising/breeding, and hopefully exhibiting QUALITY Brahmas, BUY A STANDARD. Go to a APA/ABA sanctioned show. Meet Brahma breeders. It is hard for me to be honest and use too much candor on this thread. People are TOO easily offended.

  I promise you. Birds ten times better than those on that auction could have been had for a fraction of that cost. Go to shows in your area, meet breeders, join the American Brahma Club. Educate yourselves BEFORE you waste that kind of money on "pretty birds".

  Please, no offense intended to anyone. Just expressing my opinion. 

 

Tim

thank you, i'm going to study yours to see if i can stick the good ones into my head. i do know i liked the head on roo that was on rare breeds.

i have some that i bought eggs and hatched but they were suppose to be dan powells but when i hatched, got whites, have never seen a white before, didn't know they even had whites, mine are still young so i don't know how they will turn out but doesn't matter to me, i don't show or sell, they're just for me to enjoy. but again i thank you,now to go study yours

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I did not select or make these brahmas I just sold. I acquired them from Debra Hodges and was told they came from Dan Powell and a Wales import. 

I felt it was my job to then take these birds and select the very best possible towards achieving the standard.  I planned to work with them for many many years towards that end.

Unfortunately I've become so ill I can't even make it to the ranch to take care of them let alone enjoy them, so I made the very hard decision to find new homes for them.

In the last few weeks I’ve re-homed most of their progeny to people that I believe will do the breed right and breed to standard, knowing it will take time and hard work. The progeny look SO much better than these adults, so it’s easy for me to sell the original flock to a dedicated breeder because I know they have the ingredients in them to get to the end game.

As far as marketing is concerned... well it is my day job. I’ve spent the last 20 years helping companies like Playstation, Hitachi & Chevron brand their products. I’m good at it and it was a natural for me to use my talents when it came to my birds. I don’t need a brand name to sell my birds as most people appreciate them and know me well enough to know that I am a good person that integrity and selflessness are the most important things.

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Originally Posted by brahmapapa 

Exactly, most novice breeders have no idea how much feed gets spent feeding what too often becomes culls. Selective breeding is expensive, thats why breeder eggs are more expensive, but worth every penny.

I have had people laugh and scoff at the price of my chicks or laying hens but I know reality is I can't sell them for 4-5 bucks for a chick and do my job,  now I have some rir that are nice and I still cull but they are cheaper because less work and money invested

Cheryl I think you are right we need to start some where to get some where obviously someone loved your birds and saw potential. I would love to share in your wisdom of marketing any and all advise please

Tim your critics are welcome also I plan on posting pics of my birds soon and would love you candid thoughts just don't shoot me I am trying to improve type and color but would love to know where to go next.

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I was on a genetics thread the other day and I found where someone had posted the evolution of things like the siamese cat and the bull terrier and had great pictures to go along.  It showed how the pressures of what is winning at shows has changed how breeds are viewed if I find it I will post it b/c I found it very interesting. IF anyone else knows what I am talking about let me know where I can find it again please. Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Tim63 

If you click on my profile there are over a hundred assorted photos. The main word one would use to describe a Brahma is WIDE. Their head should be WIDE, their back should be WIDE. The tail should be well spread and resemble an inverted "U". The APA recognizes three varieties of Brahmas in Bantam and Large....Buff, Dark, Light. The ABA recognizes five varieties of Bantam Brahmas, Light, Buff, Dark, White, and Black. White are never seen at shows and Blacks seldom. Partridge is a Non-recognized variety in Large and Bantam that are seen fairly frequently at shows. There is a group working to have Large Partridge Brahmas recognized. I believe they are calling them "Gold Partridge" as they are a bit lighter than the traditional "partridge" variety found in other breeds.

  I would recommend anyone that is truly interested in raising/breeding, and hopefully exhibiting QUALITY Brahmas, BUY A STANDARD. Go to a APA/ABA sanctioned show. Meet Brahma breeders. It is hard for me to be honest and use too much candor on this thread. People are TOO easily offended.

  I promise you. Birds ten times better than those on that auction could have been had for a fraction of that cost. Go to shows in your area, meet breeders, join the American Brahma Club. Educate yourselves BEFORE you waste that kind of money on "pretty birds".

  Please, no offense intended to anyone. Just expressing my opinion. 

 

Tim

Tim is the VP of the Brahma club with many wins under his belt.  It would be nice if the effort went into the existing varieties that went into off the wall colors.  Many find THAT offensive.  I would find it offensive if someone was marketing a Poodle as a Doberman.  AND through slick marketing making $ off it.  Reminds me of the whole Labradoodle thing.  It's a mutt, call it a mutt.  That said if peolple want to make $ from the ignorance of others, the internet is the place to do it.  No one forced anyone to spend that $.  

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I take it you show as well? 

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