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Originally Posted by duluthralphie View Post
 

I posted this in free ranging chickens, I thought it would help some of you come to grips with the type of criminal masterminds Guineas are:

 

 

 

I have an interesting quandary.    As I told you in the past, my dog Pearl, is not a perfect dog and had an egg stealing habit. Luckily I was willing to admit all animals including my own are flawed and not especially well behaved.

 

 

I was willing to admit my dog "could" be rotten and do something I would not condone. She is not her Mother Reagan. Reagan is a perfect dog and has never chased a bird, eaten and egg, dug a hole or anything else. She is beyond a doubt the only "perfect" dog in the world.

 

Incase you forgot about Pearl here is her picture after she reformed her evil egg eating ways. She has not had an egg in weeks, of this I am certain.

 

 

 

There is very little chance she could steal a single egg.

 

 

 

 

 

Now the dilemma,  last evening around 6pm, we found a guinea egg lying on the floor of the dining room. We do not have house guineas. However, we do have criminal guineas.  Wait until you hear that they did!

 

 

 

Reagan the perfect dog was lying on the floor and the egg was under her neck, below her ears.  Reagan, the perfect Dog is a College Graduate, the first dog in our family to ever finish all schools locally and be sent off to a private Ivy league boarding school. She graduated Summa Cum Laud majoring in advanced discipline and hunting. with a master degree in retrieving. She is the worlds greatest hunting dog.  She is now 11 years old and a little stiff in the joints so she does not get around as well as she use to. 

 

There was a time people would ask me to go on hunting trips just to have her with. If I could not go, they would ask " Can Reagan Come then? We really don't need you".

 

 

That is the type of dog she is. they never get any better. When we introduced her to chickens there were no accidents.  She can pick out a rabbit, squirrel or crow from amongst the flock and remove them without bothering the chickens.  She has never chased the chickens ever. She is the perfect dog, she can do no wrong...

 

 

So back to the egg under her ear.  We know it was not Pearl that brought it into the house.  We know it could not be Reagan as she is as perfect as the most perfect dogs some others here has described, maybe even more perfect....  It was the darn Guineas!

 

 

The distracted us, when we were looking out the window or off the deck at their, what we thought to be innocent antics, one of them snuck into the house. She went to where Reagan was taking her "grandma" nap as she is old and needs a nap. She is a sound sleeper. She did not notice the guinea come into the house, and lay an egg right next to Reagan. Then the darn Guinea pushed it under Reagan ear so we would think Reagan found a Guinea nest and stole an egg. We are not that gullible, we know better than to think our Reagan could ever do a normal dog thing.

 

 

Next thing you know the guineas will scatter and run in every direction when Reagan is around and try to frame her for chasing birds!  I tell you The Guineas are evil, I worry they will somehow convince some of the young chickens to go in with them on their outlaw activities! 

I don't think a guinea would sneak into your house and lay an egg beside Reagan and push it under her ear.  Reagan may have developed that disease that older people get I can't think of the name of it right now but it starts with an a.  She may have forgotten she is the perfect dog and carried that egg in and put it under her ear for a snack later on.  A common side effect of that disease is wanting to eat all the time.  Your perfect dog has turned bad and don't blame those innocent guineas for her mistake.  

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I have used game bird feed 24% from the start but someone on this site said I should be giving them amprolium so I thought well...i guess i will have to get some medicated feed (which is lower protein as its for chicks and fryers). So i did only to find it states right on the label not to use it in conjuction with feeds that contain bentonite, or in layman's terms game bird feed. I will try to find the post.
Edited by charid - 6/21/16 at 8:14am
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I would not use just chick starter for Guinea keets.....it does not have enough protein. I wouldn't use anything less than 22% gamebirds food/starter (or even higher protein content if you can find it). I would think it would be preferable to opt for higher protein that is unmedicated rather than a medicated chick starter than is only 16 or 18% protein content. I have not seen any medicated gamebird starter/grower in my area, so just buy the unmedicated. So far, I've not had any problem with disease (knock on wood!)

As a side note: about a month or so ago, R2Elk commented back to me about feeding Guinea keets and what food/protein does best for them. His post had a lot of good info. I will see if I can find it and post it

 

 

I have to agree with this!

 

I use 27% game bird starter, non-medicated. Game birds should not have the medicated feed.  A game bird needs stronger bones and ligaments. muscles etc because of flight. They are not chickens.  Failure to feed enough protein does not allow the internal organs to develop properly.  As R2elk pointed out before, you may not see the problem right away but you will later on. Then it is too late.    

 

I also use Game Bird Breeder feed on my adults before and during breeding season  for the same reason. a healthy strong adult is needed to make a healthy strong keet. Skimping on protein and feeding costs on keets and at breeding time will come back to bite you.

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I have to agree with this!

 

I use 27% game bird starter, non-medicated. Game birds should not have the medicated feed.  A game bird needs stronger bones and ligaments. muscles etc because of flight. They are not chickens.  Failure to feed enough protein does not allow the internal organs to develop properly.  As R2elk pointed out before, you may not see the problem right away but you will later on. Then it is too late.    

 

I also use Game Bird Breeder feed on my adults before and during breeding season  for the same reason. a healthy strong adult is needed to make a healthy strong keet. Skimping on protein and feeding costs on keets and at breeding time will come back to bite you.


Maybe that's why mine are mafia birds!!!

 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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Maybe that's why mine are mafia birds!!!

 

 

Lack of protein is proven to turn the average Guinea into a killer!

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Lack of protein is proven to turn the average Guinea into a killer!


hee hee, so that is what happened!!   :lau

 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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hee hee, so that is what happened!!   :lau

 

 

We studied the affects of low protein and Guinea behavior to death here at Orrock Township University.

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I have used game bird feed 24% from the start but someone on this site said I should be giving them amprolium so I thought well...i guess i will have to get some medicated feed (which is lower protein as its for chicks and fryers). So i did only to find it states right on the label not to use it in conjuction with feeds that contain bentonite, or in layman's terms game bird feed. I will try to find the post.


I dont do medicated anything....   :pop

Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

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Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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We studied the affects of low protein and Guinea behavior to death here at Orrock Township University.

 

Wow, I don't even think our renowned Rutgers University has ever studied that topic....Orrock Township University must be on the bird cutting edge!!

 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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Wow, I don't even think our renowned Rutgers University has ever studied that topic....Orrock Township University must be on the bird cutting edge!!

 

 

It is!!

 

 They have a Degree by mail program, it is self study.  If you were to send me a check made out to "CASH"        That stands for    Continuing a  study in higher stuff..  I will hand deliver the check to the University and see to it you get your lesson by mail.     Make the check out for $14,000     you know the cost of a good education has went up in the last few years..

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