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What do you all think of the Scratch and Peck feed? It's whole grain based, non-GMO, no soy, there's a no-corn option. I know all of the latter is good. I was mostly wondering what you think about the whole-grain-ness of it all, rather than pellets or crumbles.

 

Here's a link to their website: http://www.scratchandpeck.com/products/poultry

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Hi Emerald,

 

I tried Scratch and Peck late last summer.  The texture of it is not a problem--I served it in smaller quantities in flat-bottomed plastic bowls, rather than a gravity feeder.  My flock would finish almost all of it each day, leaving behind a fairly small amount of powdery feed and sometimes the little "kibble-type" pellets.  If you mix this last bit with some water or liquid they will eagerly finish it.  I also tried serving the whole amount moistened, which they ate eagerly also but is more trouble.  The chickens certainly would go crazy for it every day.

 

I did seem to notice a drop in egg production, as a few others have mentioned.  But in my case I think they dropped off production before heading into a hard molt, so it is impossible to say of the decrease in egg production was really related to the feed.

 

There is another thread in this category for Scratch and Peck if you search for it, with more detailed info.  Here is a link for it:  

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/684324/scratch-and-peck-non-gmo-organic-anyone-use-this


Edited by barkinghills - 1/20/14 at 8:58am
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Im sad to say scratch and peck is no longer worth the price. I have noticed more and more powder in there feed , and today i literally sifter over 19 pounds of powder out of a 40 pound bag . I filled two ten pound feeders and what was left over was powder, nothing more then a bin full of powder ! When you spend over 27.00 and get only two ten pound feeders from a 40 lb bag its clearly a waste of money. I noticed more and more powder in the feed over the last year, and today when i opened up a new bag i was shocked at how much powder was in it. Sorry azure Standard, you get an F on quality for price paid. I buy 5 bags a month, what im getting for my buck is not much ! , !
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I sent a note to Scratch and Peck, this is the reply I got:

 

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Hi Laurie! Thanks for letting us know. I've been involved on the retail side of things with Scratch and Peck since they started - my store was the first to carry their feed in my area and I've been a supporter ever since. My retail days are over and I help with orders and information now. I can tell you that the amount of fines has always been a concern for me, and for my customers, since we started with the feed. In the process of manufacturing it, we take whole grains, crack the peas, and add in a mixture that provides protein, minerals, and vitamins. Without this mixture, Scratch and Peck would be nothing more than scratch grains - organic feed, for sure, but without the balanced nutrition that the chickens need. Without the process of cooking, extruding, and pelletizing, there is simply no way for us to make a powder-less complete ration feed. What I have been experimenting with, and what I recommend to all my customers now, is to use the practice of fermenting the feed. This sticks the powder together, increases the nutrient level, and increases the digestibility of the grain. Check out http://naturalchickenkeeping.blogspot.com/p/fermented-feed.html for more information. If this person is screening out the powder then unfortunately, she is loosing much of what the chickens need to produce. Getting them to eat the powder, though, is tough - which is where the fermenting comes in. I do believe that she was screening out much more than just the mineral mixture, though, as that comprises just a little over 25% of our mixture. With the cracked peas it is about 50%. Please feel free to pass this information along if you would like, I'd love for the chance to talk with her. And - let me know if you have any more questions yourself about our feed. Thank you so much for contacting us! ~ Matthew Aamot, Scratch and Peck Feeds

 

I invited him to contribute to this thread.

 

I'm willing to try fermenting and as a matter of fact I have a perfect glass crock-type jar that has been waiting for a purpose for years. So I have a batch started already and will see how it goes. I'd like for the hens to get all of the nutrients that's in the food, and if it's in the powder then this is a way to get them to eat it. Also I've spent some time (mostly on this forum, but elsewhere too) reading up on fermented food today and it seems it works better with whole grains, so with that in mind, the Scratch and Peck feed does seem well suited for this, especially since I won't have to add anything additional since it is formulated as a complete feed for the chickens. I only have four hens so this should be pretty easy for me to do.

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I was wondering why my chickens were loosing weight! The powder clogged everything and with the price the waste is way to much. I will never buy this food again because of the price and the fact my birds were actually starving ! I used a colander , when i screened the holes were very small. The powder is ridiculous and when i talked to many folks on facebook they saw this as a reason they stopped buying it also. I will seek else where to buy a better product.. My girls deserve a real food with out trying to get past the dust, the powder , and work through all that to find the grains.
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Originally Posted by karlamaria View Post

I was wondering why my chickens were loosing weight! The powder clogged everything and with the price the waste is way to much. I will never buy this food again because of the price and the fact my birds were actually starving ! I used a colander , when i screened the holes were very small. The powder is ridiculous and when i talked to many folks on facebook they saw this as a reason they stopped buying it also. I will seek else where to buy a better product.. My girls deserve a real food with out trying to get past the dust, the powder , and work through all that to find the grains.

 

You can't get around having the the powder when the company is not grinding grain, mashing it together, and cooking it into a pellet. The powder is fish meal and vitamin/mineral premix, which is essential. Other companies process the food more by grinding, cooking, and smooshing it all together into a pellet. A whole grain, unprocessed feed simply CANNOT get rid of the powder- otherwise the feed wouldn't be complete. The food IS real food- much more real than any pellet or crumble that has been so processed! I don't think you are understanding the process or why the powder has to be there.

 

If you don't want to feed it- fine. But don't badmouth a product because you don't personally like the texture.

 

As a side note, I don't even FEED Scratch and Peck. I make my own whole grain feed. And guess what... I have to add in a lot of powdered supplements! I ferment my feed so it all sticks together.

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If you sift out S&P mash, you basically have only scratch. It is really a food designed to be moistened, soaked, or fermented. I ferment it, and my hens eat nearly every last bit of it every day. They are far healthier than when I got them (at 18 months old), and every one of them had grown up on pellets. They are laying like crazy, and they couldn't be happier.

If you don't like feeding mash, then stick to pellets. But don't trash a company that makes an amazing product just because you have unrealistic expectations.
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Hi folks! Matthew from Scratch and Peck here. I just wanted to say that we appreciate the discussion and are always able to talk about our feed with anyone that has concerns. For me, fermenting the feed is really the key to success with Scratch and Peck. Not only does it stick all the fine ingredients (which are your protein and minerals) together to the whole grains, but the feed required for an adult hen goes down to 1/4 pound a day versus an average 1/3 pound; the feed is more digestible, so the birds get more out of what you are feeding; and the process of fermentation actually raises the protein and nutritional content. For more information on our feed, feel free to call us at the mill - (360) 318-7585. A great resource for information on fermenting is http://naturalchickenkeeping.blogspot.com/p/fermented-feed.html  . Thanks again! ~ Matthew

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I began fermenting it, they like it ,so all is well. Im in the learning process so we shall see. Im not used to having to wet feed etc, but if thats what it takes ok. smile.png
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