Where can you buy Flubenvet in the US?

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And here’s what Fenbendazole is for

Don’t know where to put this post.

Long time lurker on BYC. Chiming in re: Syngamus trachea; aka:Gapeworm, red worm, forked worm.

One hen (Buff Orpington <12m age) was/is doing the gape/yawn, no nasal or eye drainage, and is gaping on the roost. She is now gasping. Bird have often free ranged eating worms, bugs, voles, etc.

Research of home vet remedies online led me to Febendazole (Safegaurd goat dewormer - available from Amazon/TSC/etc). The prescribed application (source: poultrydvm.com) is : 3cc Fenbendazole (Safegaurd) liquid in 1.0 gallon of water, offered as the sole flock water source for 3 days. Repeated in 3 weeks. Actual instructions on the poultydvm.com website states repeat every 3 weeks (other vet sources state repeat after 1-2 weeks). I have read that egg withholding (not ok to eat) is not required, but another source says withhold egg’s consumption 3 days after treatment — and still more: withhold 14 days (ibid BYC post) with no data source given. Leaning toward a week of withholding, unless I find a definitive scientific study white paper.

Is disinfecting the run and coup required? If so, what method and disinfecting agents are options to kill nematodes with the birds present?

(My run and coup are sand based and I have poop boards with zeolite/lime under roost. It’s now snowy winter in NE Ohio, so replacing tons of sand is not happening any time soon)

Thanks
Pete

ChickenEddieAKAcp said:

Don’t know where to put this post.

Long time lurker on BYC. Chiming in re: Syngamus trachea; aka:Gapeworm, red worm, forked worm.

One hen (Buff Orpington <12m age) was/is doing the gape/yawn, no nasal or eye drainage, and is gaping on the roost. She is now gasping. Bird have often free ranged eating worms, bugs, voles, etc.

Research of home vet remedies online led me to Febendazole (Safegaurd goat dewormer - available from Amazon/TSC/etc). The prescribed application (source: poultrydvm.com) is : 3cc Fenbendazole (Safegaurd) liquid in 1.0 gallon of water, offered as the sole flock water source for 3 days. Repeated in 3 weeks. Actual instructions on the poultydvm.com website states repeat every 3 weeks (other vet sources state repeat after 1-2 weeks). I have read that egg withholding (not ok to eat) is not required, but another source says withhold egg’s consumption 3 days after treatment — and still more: withhold 14 days (ibid BYC post) with no data source given. Leaning toward a week of withholding, unless I find a definitive scientific study white paper.

Is disinfecting the run and coup required? If so, what method and disinfecting agents are options to kill nematodes with the birds present?

(My run and coup are sand based and I have poop boards with zeolite/lime under roost. It’s now snowy winter in NE Ohio, so replacing tons of sand is not happening any time soon)

Thanks
Pete

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Poultry DVM is not a vet, and some of their info is questionable or wrong. Gapeworm is rare, but respiratory diseases can cause gaping and gasping. What symptoms are you seeing? Are there any bubbles/foam in one eye, nasal drainage, mucus or gunk in the beak, or sneezing? Fenbendazole (SafeGuard liquid goat wormer, horse paste, and Panacur) is a suspension and should not be put in water, since it will settle. Shake it well, and five it orally. The proper dosage is 0.25 ml given one and in 10 days for treatment of roundworms only. For treatment of other worms including gapeworm and capillary worms, but not tapeworms, give it 5 consecutive days orally to each chicken.

Eggcessive said:

Poultry DVM is not a vet, and some of their info is questionable or wrong. Gapeworm is rare, but respiratory diseases can cause gaping and gasping. What symptoms are you seeing? Are there any bubbles/foam in one eye, nasal drainage, mucus or gunk in the beak, or sneezing? Fenbendazole (SafeGuard liquid goat wormer, horse paste, and Panacur) is a suspension and should not be put in water, since it will settle. Shake it well, and five it orally.The proper dosage is 0.25 ml given one and in 10 days for treatment of roundworms only. For treatment of other worms including gapeworm and capillary worms, but not tapeworms, give it 5 consecutive days orally to each chicken.

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Thank you for your reply, I sincerely appreciate it.

Symptoms?,
as stated in the OP:
One hen (Buff Orpington <12m age) was/is doing the gape/yawn, no nasal or eye drainage, and is gaping on the roost. She is now gasping."

-no eye issues, no nasal issue, no sneezing
-often is separating herself from rest of flock, hanging behind or going off on own
-hunched down, balls up and gasps for air -- gasps for air on roost
-brown runny poop occasionally found in run -- thought was that it is unrelated

Application:
Yes, Safegaurd is suspended and eventually settles in water. The water is being mixed well several times daily to help keep suspended. I understand that the "accepted" proper method to administer is down the throat via an eye-dropper or needle-less syringe-- however a post by an avian vet warned that if a bird is gasping this method can cause it to choke to death.

"Shake it well, and five it orally."

The entire flock (including the semi-aggressive rooster) will NOT be treated/dosed via syringe or taken to a vet for that purpose. This is NOT in my wheel-house to do this procedure and my local avian vet charges $75/bird (just to "put up on the lift"). (Yes, You might point your finger at me and say: then perhaps I shouldn't own chickens! Perhaps not..).

If the one hen does not show improvement within the week she will be brought to the avian vet located in the next town for diagnosis (including postmordem diagnosis), in order to determine path forward for the flock.

"For treatment of other worms including gapeworm and capillary worms, but not tapeworms, give it 5 consecutive days orally to each chicken."

I am having trouble finding reliable documented sources online for the application protocol.

The application protocol for Gapeworm was obtainjed from the DVM site and here: https://www.veterinarypaper.com/pdf/2020/vol5issue4/PartB/5-4-10-417.pdf
"...it is essential to treat birds for gapeworm twice at one to two week interval depending on the anthelmintic to be used... "
I believe this is to eliminate any worms that have hatched from any remaining worm eggs present in the birds.

Thank you again for sharing and your time. Pete (NE Ohio)

ChickenEddieAKAcp said:

Thank you for your reply, I sincerely appreciate it.

Symptoms?,
as stated in the OP:
One hen (Buff Orpington <12m age) was/is doing the gape/yawn, no nasal or eye drainage, and is gaping on the roost. She is now gasping."

-no eye issues, no nasal issue, no sneezing
-often is separating herself from rest of flock, hanging behind or going off on own
-hunched down, balls up and gasps for air -- gasps for air on roost
-brown runny poop occasionally found in run -- thought was that it is unrelated

Application:
Yes, Safegaurd is suspended and eventually settles in water. The water is being mixed well several times daily to help keep suspended. I understand that the "accepted" proper method to administer is down the throat via an eye-dropper or needle-less syringe-- however a post by an avian vet warned that if a bird is gasping this method can cause it to choke to death.

"Shake it well, and five it orally."

The entire flock (including the semi-aggressive rooster) will NOT be treated/dosed via syringe or taken to a vet for that purpose. This is NOT in my wheel-house to do this procedure and my local avian vet charges $75/bird (just to "put up on the lift"). (Yes, You might point your finger at me and say: then perhaps I shouldn't own chickens! Perhaps not..).

If the one hen does not show improvement within the week she will be brought to the avian vet located in the next town for diagnosis (including postmordem diagnosis), in order to determine path forward for the flock.

"For treatment of other worms including gapeworm and capillary worms, but not tapeworms, give it 5 consecutive days orally to each chicken."

I am having trouble finding reliable documented sources online for the application protocol.

The application protocol for Gapeworm was obtainjed from the DVM site and here: https://www.veterinarypaper.com/pdf/2020/vol5issue4/PartB/5-4-10-417.pdf
"...it is essential to treat birds for gapeworm twice at one to two week interval depending on the anthelmintic to be used... "
I believe this is to eliminate any worms that have hatched from any remaining worm eggs present in the birds.

Thank you again for sharing and your time. Pete (NE Ohio)

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This entry post 37 is from a poultry drug book, scroll down for capillary worms:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...-guard-vs-aquasol-product-info.1555432/page-4

Pete, what was your final course of action and result?( I think my rooster has gapeworm and he is quickly failing now after about 5 weeks. I'm in SC.)

echo81577 said:

Pete, what was your final course of action and result?( I think my rooster has gapeworm and he is quickly failing now after about 5 weeks. I'm in SC.)

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Dude, this thread is from 2022.

It may be best for you to start your own thread instead of posting on every thread that deals with Flubendazole.

You are in the U.S. so Flubendazole is not available.

You have a reply here::: But starting a thread with photos and symptoms would be a great idea, you may get more suggestions.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...e-question-for-gapeworm.1589384/post-27682791