Hawk Predation

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I live in Ireland so I don't know much about the laws in your country, but I wonder if you catch hawks with a net without harming them and relocate them hundreds of miles away from you?
 
chesapeakechickens said:
THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE AND I AM NOT A LAWYER.
.....it is still a federal crime to harm, hunt, pursue, injure, possess, etc, any migratory bird (this includes all birds of prey) without a permit. There is a permit available for killing a nuisance predatory bird called a 50 CFR. There are many restrictions and a significant cost involved. Additionally, my impression was that no hobby farm or suburban flock could hope to meet the standard required to have one issued. (This was simply my impression from the conversation, it was not actually stated explicitly) There is also a provision in the federal statute that allows for the "scaring" of these birds without any permitting or permission. I was actually calling to get some guidance on that particular issue. They told me that anything that does not physically harm the bird is permissible. Electric fencing, electric perches, fireworks, noise makers, motion sensing sprinklers, protective animals, netting, wire perching deterrents, were all discussed without any concerns from the official.

Please do your own research as I am just an idiot mechanic and the federal penalties are substantial for this infraction. They include significant prison time (of course in federal prison, not your local jail) and 10s of thousands in fines plus forfeiture of any materials used in the commission (your car, your gun, your house). This is just my own experience in my own state.

Andy
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Many Western states have been emancipated by the US Department of F&WL. It is therefor reasonably easy in many Western States to kill a wolf that is harassing your livestock, or that is threatening your family and pets.

There are permits for killing herons, snake birds, cormorants, and about every other species of fish eating bird or fowl that you can name, that is if you farm fish on a commercial scale. Furthermore, on the West Coast you can kill the cute cuddly seals, and/or sea lions to keep them out of your salmon pens.

The dividing line between getting and not getting a permit to destroy marauding animals seem to be whether the permit seeker contributes anything towards the care and feeding of the U.S.DF&WL by paying either personal or corporate income taxes on any profit generated by the "Confined Feeding" operation that is seeking the permit. Without being able to demonstrate a significant monetary loss, I will predict that you are SOL before you even call the U.S.DF&WL.
 
Interesting - just read the entire thread, and other than the first post, nothing from the OP. Just in case they check in now and then, I'll throw in my 2 cents' worth. Personally, I'd be building a covered run for my chickens. They wouldn't have to be contained forever, but eventually that hawk would move on after it figures out that it will get no more free chicken dinners.

As far as shooting them, the best thing a person can do is check with their LOCAL and STATE DNR, Fish & Wildlife, or whoever enforces their game laws. If there are legal and proper channels to go through to be able to eliminate a problem predator, follow those channels. What may be legal for me here in MN, may not going to be legal for someone in Maine or CA. Do some research, check it out for yourself. Don't rely on what you read here from people who's situation and laws may be different than yours.
 

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