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*DISCLAIMER: I am not advocating for giving chickens NO treats at all. I believe that, as with humans, treats must be consumed wisely and in moderation.*

Back in December and January, I had a sick hen. My posts about it are here, the onset of her sickness, here, when she aspirated the antifungal, and here, her death. Mahalia had a yeast infection in her crop, was taken to LSU Vet School, prescribed Nystatin (an antifungal), and then dropped dead January 10. I was shocked- she had no symptoms, was laying regularly, was face down dead when I came home from church one night.

The next morning, I took her to LSU Vet to be dropped off for a necropsy... and heard nothing until today, when I called to ask about results. Turns out they were ready on Jan. 21, but they forgot to call.

I had been feeding them Nature's Best organic layer feed, grit, oyster shell, the occasional few kitchen scraps, and the big baddie now, dried mealworms. I had to learn to hide the bag of mealworms, otherwise my dad would throw them handfuls of them multiple times a day, and the chickens were like kids in a candy shop. We have 3 hens (minus Mahalia, RIP) and this was WAY too much for them. The chickens were also not free ranging as much as they should have been. This comedy of errors turned out to be fatal for poor Mahalia.

The lab results I got today showed that Mahalia had fatty liver hemorrhagic syndrome, or FLHS. This is caused by a diet high in energy and low in exercise. Because she was getting so many mealworms and not free ranging as much as she should have been, it was the same effect as eating potato chips and sitting on the couch all day. At her death she weighed nearly 8 pounds, and was an 8 month RIR pullet. I have screenshots of the report which I will post below.

My admonition for you is to cut way, way back on chicken treats. This likely caused my sweet hen's premature death. I would hate for this mostly preventable condition to happen to more hens because of unawareness.

Since her death, I have rarely fed my remaining hens mealworms, not because I suspected anything, but because I simply forgot about them. I'm glad I did. My hens are happy, laying well, and maintaining a healthy weight.

Another point I wanted to touch on is the importance of humility when caring for pets and asking for advice on forums like BYC. I would roll my eyes at logical and correct replies like "treats should be 10% of the diet max." If I had accepted these replies with humility and changed my ways, I might have 4 chickens today.

Good luck to you and your backyard flock!




*there are several typos in this report, written by the animal hospital, not me.*
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I'm glad you included the doctor's report. Thank you for sharing this. My hens have not had many treats recently because I forget but I do notice they are actually laying more than usual. I will take this advice. Thank you again!
Great info, thank you for sharing! I had no idea and am done buying mealworms. Will finish out the bag I have very slowly, then stick to the veggie scraps and occasional grub I find when working my garden.

This information is very helpful. I am sorry for your loss, but thankful to have the opportunity to learn from it.

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Thank you for submitting your sad story. I had a brother that spoiled his Labrador dog to death, the same way, she died young and obese. He took her to get a cheeseburger at Mcdonalds for treats.
WOW! I'd think that even if the health factors didn't deter him, the price would!
 
He loved the dog to death! I could never convince him, that it was going to kill the dog too young and he had more money than sense. I miss both of them. Anyway, your birds period of inactivity predisposed them to the problem of a too high of "energy "diet. That is an interesting point , that people who confine chickens to smaller coops and runs, or like during long running bad weather, may should pay more attention to!
 
So sorry that you had that happen.
I just lost one to impacted gizzard (my own post mortem). It's a terrible thing to go through. She was the hen who ate anything tho, and I guess the longer grass in the early winter is what did her in.
Glad your other three didn't succumb to the same thing 😥🐔
 
That must have been so upsetting :( .

I'm so pleased with BYC, it's got me and my girls through so much, it's such a helpful place.
I'm learning fermentation here and my girls now eat fermented feed every morning, I'm sure it is a large part of keeping them healthy and it cuts down on costs, so a win win. :)
 
That must have been so upsetting :( .

I'm so pleased with BYC, it's got me and my girls through so much, it's such a helpful place.
I'm learning fermentation here and my girls now eat fermented feed every morning, I'm sure it is a large part of keeping them healthy and it cuts down on costs, so a win win. :)
I've always wanted to ferment my own feed using my sourdough starter!! I'll probably try it this summer when I'm out of school! :celebrate
 
I have used the same sourdough bread starter for many years(about 20), from Camaldoli, Italy, for my household use. I also, have been a Zymurgist since 1974. Fermenting pickles, breads, wine and beer for almost five decades, now. It never hurt or helped my chickens to feed them fresh properly fermented foods, that I could tell, but the flies liked it a lot more! The chickens liked the flies. So Ok, if you are so inclined, to do all the extra work for a small backyard flock. Good luck with your efforts and happy chickens!
 
That must have been so upsetting :( .

I'm so pleased with BYC, it's got me and my girls through so much, it's such a helpful place.
I'm learning fermentation here and my girls now eat fermented feed every morning, I'm sure it is a large part of keeping them healthy and it cuts down on costs, so a win win. :)
Couldn't you just give them some ACV in their water?
I'd like to try that first. What does it do for them to get fermented feed?
 
Couldn't you just give them some ACV in their water?
I'd like to try that first. What does it do for them to get fermented feed?
I believe it's a kind of natural probiotic! I feel they can easily take the fermentation feed because they never have any crop problems and since feeding them this way there's has been no vent problem at all, which was a big problem for one of my best layers.

They get ACV once a week in their water.

In the beginning I gave them mixed corn daily, I've changed this and it is given to them around twice a week. As treats I tend to throw out the layers feed and they really enjoy it, whereas they used to leave it when it was their main feed. :) . Another treat is a little sourdough bread, they will get this tomorrow or I'll have them protesting because they know full well it's been baked and I will have no choice.

😁 Yes they have me wrapped around their little feet.

Today I baked bread they get really excited when this happens and expect a little more, so I used layers mash with layers pellets a tiny bit of ginger powder then all mashed in with a boiled egg with the eggshell and warm water..That's their Sunday lunch and they were very happy. :)
 
My goodness! Spoiled much? I think that's lovely!
I just started feeding a mixture of a small alfalfa cubes soaked in water, some layer pellets, some scratch chopped up in my little chopper because my newest hen has no idea what pellets are for! It's been three weeks and all she eats is scratch and grapes I cut up for them.
She must've been raised pretty crappy.
 
My goodness! Spoiled much? I think that's lovely!
I just started feeding a mixture of a small alfalfa cubes soaked in water, some layer pellets, some scratch chopped up in my little chopper because my newest hen has no idea what pellets are for! It's been three weeks and all she eats is scratch and grapes I cut up for them.
She must've been raised pretty crappy.
I've never heard of alfalfa until I read this post. I've just looked this up and will see if I can get some :) thanks
 
I've never heard of alfalfa until I read this post. I've just looked this up and will see if I can get some :) thanks
I found it in the rabbit section in the feed store. Horses too, but that's a 50lb bag and I don't need that much!
They gobble it up. I give them about a tablespoon a day, warmed up, in the morning with chopped grapes or strawberries or something.
I also make sure it's chopped up good because there are some stems in there!
 
I found it in the rabbit section in the feed store. Horses too, but that's a 50lb bag and I don't need that much!
They gobble it up. I give them about a tablespoon a day, warmed up, in the morning with chopped grapes or strawberries or something.
I also make sure it's chopped up good because there are some stems in there!
Thank you. I will enquire at our local pet store :)
 
I have used the same sourdough bread starter for many years(about 20), from Camaldoli, Italy, for my household use. I also, have been a Zymurgist since 1974. Fermenting pickles, breads, wine and beer for almost five decades, now. It never hurt or helped my chickens to feed them fresh properly fermented foods, that I could tell, but the flies liked it a lot more! The chickens liked the flies. So Ok, if you are so inclined, to do all the extra work for a small backyard flock. Good luck with your efforts and happy chickens!
Please would you mind sharing a few of your recipes. This is really so interesting. :)
 
Sorry for your loss, it's a good reminder why treats should be limited.
 

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