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Quote: Zip ties are something that is use to tie bundles of wire together You can find them at the home improvement store or prob even wal mart

Quote: not if you cut the end short I suppose some how they might find a way to make it more tight by pushing it towards the leg but that seem remote to me.... I use them on my ducks (that fly) also..

Quote: Zip ties are plastic..........

I did\\do............. My concern is staying on top of the growth of the bird so as to keep it loose. I got the idea from Luke (BYC member) and he was so smart that he even double or triple banded to keep things straight. I suppose you could even use diff colors of zip ties.....