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    Shamo? Anyone.

    Now you have a definite stag, congrats.......Pop
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    Shamo? Anyone.

    The stag looks a lot older than the pullets. Nice posture and plumage. Hard to really tell about the eye color, but They should be white, or pearl. Maybe they are, but they aren't red, which is a good thing. All in all, the guy looks like a good find. The pullets don't really look related...
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    Shamo? Anyone.

    I'm getting a real kick out of following this story. Your Shamo stag sounds perfectly normal, but you have to realize that his behavior is going to change and it could be any time from now on. they truly are "big puddings" until they turn on, then they will challenge any other bird on your yard...
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    Shamo? Anyone.

    Let's see a pic of those Asil and any info you have on them. To say a full grown Shamo is "intimidating" could be a gross understatement. However, they do mature very slow and should not be considered mature until they are 2 years old. Same with the Asil and any orientals. Asils and/or Asil...
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    Shamo? Anyone.

    LOL, Julia Keeling (The Shamo Lady) says they are all "Big Puddings" until they reach a certain age and turn on. That's an accurate description. I have had some with attitude that had to be separated early, even with a mature cock policing them. One in particular sassed the old cock and lost his...
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    Shamo? Anyone.

    Hmmm, still looks a bit light for a stag. Wheaten cocks are red/black and the little stags will be almost as red as a RIR chick. Maybe it's just the pic, but still looks like a pullet. Perhaps a pic of all of them together would change that opinion.......Pop
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    Shamo? Anyone.

    Hi Nicol, sorry I didn't reply to your question, been insane around here for a week. Yes, you can sex wheatons at hatch by color. Stags will be reddish and pullets lighter, even yellow, or white. To help with the pasty butt issue, a small amount of molasses in their water (mix to look like weak...
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    Shamo? Anyone.

    Nicol, you might try saving eggs for 3 weeks before you incubate them. Seems to me a larger cluster of chicks would have a better chance of survival that 4-5. I know people say that after 10 days eggs start loosing their hatchability, but I have game hens that lay off and on for over a month and...
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    Shamo? Anyone.

    Nicol, I have to preface with the fact that I hen hatch all my fowl. I don't see anything wrong with what you did, as you explain it. A couple tweaks that may help, I would try a lower protein chick feed as orientals were developed and bred on low protein feed, like rice and such, but that in...
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    Shamo? Anyone.

    Sorry 'bout your luck. Happens to all of us. Hope you weren't too tough on the kid. As trajic as this seems, it may be for the best. In my humble opinion, hatchery orientals that I have seen aren't worth the price of shipping. It would be to your advantage to pick which breed you liked the best...
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    Shamo? Anyone.

    Better get started building pens. Each male will need one and build at least one extra. Two would be better.....Pop
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    Shamo? Anyone.

    Been my experience that the darker chicks are stags. The pullets are yellow.........Pop
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