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what bad happens?

Thanks for posting. Good advice

Gotcha! Thanks, everything makes sense now! Also you might notice that I can't count or remember, which is a problem without a solution when you get old and have attention deficit syn. your whole life. But I was only 10 posts off! (380 I remembered as opposed to 370 actual) lol

OK, I give up! What is "mother" and what is "acv". I am sure it is on here somewhere but there are 380 some posts.