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  1. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    I lean little "l" libertarian - most of the candidates for the Party are (in my rarely humble opinion) "bat crazy" - so I have some appreciation for what the extremes can do to a movement... Thank you @Ironclay for weighing in as someone more inclined to be forgiving, looking at one's fellows...
  2. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    The sponsors of these bills, most typically, are not big agribusiness trying to shut out competition, but rather the more extreme fringes of the Eco/Green/Animal Rights movements. They either don't know, don't care, or intend that such policies would necessitate a huge reduction in the world...
  3. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    Not that I expect to convince anyone whose mind is already made up, but there is a distressing lack of context in the numbers being tossed around and with it, an utter lack of math. I'm bad at explaining statistics, but perhaps this article will help. Yes, the analogy at the end is tortured...
  4. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    I did not intend to suggest that cannibalism was apocryphal, I meant rather to suggest that the translation "long pig" was likely apocryphal - particularly as the pig was introduced to many of the islands which were later suggested as source for alleged term, by the European explorers who...
  5. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    The term is probably apocryphal, originating in the late 1800s, popularly reported in the oft sensationalist media, and ascribed to some unnamed cannibal tribe (location varies) whose language no longer exists, as reported by some far off explorer. That said, pork is remarkably similar to human...
  6. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    The anthropomorphisation of animals is older than Aesop, who assembled the first well known (to history) collection more than 2500 years ago. Early human divinities throughout history had the aspect of animals, whether just in visage (such as the various beast headed deities of the Egyptian...
  7. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    It has been my experience that the news media, whatever you might think of a particular source, is VERY VERY bad at reporting on the law. Even setting aside the bias of the various sources, the choice of language on all sides of the political spectrum suggests that either their writers don't...
  8. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    ...and it looks like I'm drifting into politics. Sorry about that. Hope I have not caused offense in my efforts to educate. Apologies to all.
  9. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    I am not from New York - have relatives there, but they are not involved in livestock production . I was referring to a different bill, but the one you describe was Assembly bill A00380, previously A4667, previously A1006, previously A2798 (and corresponding Senate bills, Sxxxxx. The Same NY...
  10. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    That of course is the point. Look at the post here with people talking about texture differences in free-range 16-week old birds. Can you imagine the consumer complaints eating six-year-old Birds? Actually, I'm not certain the USDA allows processing for human consumption of animals that died of...
  11. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    You can search OR Ballot initiatives here. In 2020, of 72 initiatives, only 12 were even approved to collect signatures. And four, I believe, actually made it to your ballot. Awareness is good, yes. Don't stress yet.
  12. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    My point is that its not a bill. Unlike the NY bill seeking to prohibit USPS shipping of live animals in the State. Which hopefully dies in committee. If and when they get enough signatures to potentially put it on the ballot, THAT is when you get concerned. Its also the first time you can do...
  13. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    (I should perhaps acknowledge that my tendency to refer to voters as "like minded idiots", and sometimes less generous appellations for legislators ,ensured that most of my work was done behind the scenes. I have never been the public face of any of the legislation that received my input - to...
  14. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    ...and HERE is the referenced CO proposal - note the somewhat easier to read draft mark-up. It appears to be at a similar point in the process, and required similarly little to be presented to the CO Sec of State. There are not enough similarities in the Bills, in my view, to suggest...
  15. U_Stormcrow

    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    As @JubileeFarmer observed, this is simply a ballot initiative advanced by some Citizens seeking to rewrite OR law, it is not the result of the normal legislative process. The text is here. This is in what is called "mark up" form, which is **supposed** to make it easier to read. [In past...
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