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Ok, I'll quit. I'm tired of trying to get people to understand points that are grounded in hundreds of years worth of data and they argue back with me by citing "nobody in my family ever died of food poisoning, therefore you're wrong." The plural of anecdote is not data, and I can't have a...

Some of the deadliest outbreaks in recent years have been from organic vegetables from exactly all those "thens" above. Farm workers in many countries simply relieve themselves in the fields. Manure is not always composted. Meat hangs unrefrigerated and covered in flies in open air markets all...

BYC is absolutely, completely, and totally the wrong place to get into this discussion and I have no intention of getting into this with you. What you are doing is wrong and puts us all at risk, and that's an incredibly selfish thing to do--and then to jauntily laugh it off with "LOL" is the...

I agree, and I don't have to wonder; I know. My husband worked as a sanitarian for several years, and the Department of Health saves millions of lives. If you look at the historical records, millions died from drinking unpasteurized milk, improperly home-canned goods, contaminated water...

You are certainly welcome, and I'm glad that you find some context where you found my long post helpful, even if you can't see where it applies to your daily life. And thank you for explaining to me what hyperbole was, I never would have understood it on my own. Silly me, I thought that when the...

Well, since the OP had meant it to be fact since he read it in a book but has since reconsidered using the fact since the author seemed biased, perhaps he doesn't need you to tell him that he meant his post as hyperbole when he didn't? And since I wrote a very long post explaining why this sort...

Didn't mean to come down on you like a ton of bricks, but let me explain my position. I have worked in the environmental field for many years. It's a field where people often let their emotions hold sway instead of actual science. Remember the big bru ha ha with the Roundup Ready corn killing...

Makes me wonder (and this is pure speculation)... if you go over to the Chicken Behaviors and Egglaying forum, you'll see post after post from folks that have 30+ week old pullets that have yet to lay, or people whose pullets began to lay and then quit on them. I've had trouble with my fall...

So why would you put it forth as fact? It harms your argument to use such obvious propaganda, no matter which side you're on. That also means that everything else you say in your post is automatically suspect, since you start with a false "fact." Citations/sources for everything you've posted...

Agree with ChickenJerk above. There are lots of reasons to be unhappy with the state of large slaughterhouses, but what is described in the quote above is seriously misinformed. Sounds like someone's been reading PETA propaganda, honestly.