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  1. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    My assessment based on appearance of adults and their size. Several variants typical of American Games. Many of those same variants produce chicks with chipmunk stripes.
  2. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    What you are calling Jungle Fowl appear to be feral American Games. In the wrong hands (novice), I would not say rescue is what has happened.
  3. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    I do not need a particular day to be a fool. "Your" right hand looks feminine with a really long wrist.
  4. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    I extracted image to see why it looked so odd. Part of the odd look seems to come with the extreme iridescence on the black feathers. Bill has funny color making shape hard to define against wooded background.
  5. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    Just not tolerant of aggressive BS.
  6. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    Currently the only jungle fowl I have are domestic chickens. Note I did not say jungle fowl are chickens. Link to the paper about the proportions of red versus gray. You can do it! I am trained zoologists that has had to suffer learning how to find citations to back up points made.
  7. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    Link to citations. Wiki itself does not qualify. You should be a able to find a paper reporting domestic chickens they looked at are ~85% Red Jungle Fowl with balance apparently coming coming from Gray Jungle Fowl. Another hypothesizes the allele for yellow skin in domestic chickens come from...
  8. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    First you provide some documentation. Start with two assertions in bold.
  9. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    Jungle Fowl repressent multiple species with some having subspecies in their on right, Red Jungle fowl is repressented by multiple subspecies. Domestic chickens represent a hybrid between at least the Red Jungle Fowl and Grey Jungle fowl where selection on that hybrid has restored fertility...
  10. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    Looks like they might be a product of out crossing with brown leghorn.
  11. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    How would they get Green Jungle Fowl mitochondria when female hybrid is sterile?
  12. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    Chickens derived from polynesian dispersal make sense to have addition of Green Jungle Fowl. Bekisar figure prominantly in that. My understanding of science on the south American chickens (excluding games) is that findings conflict as to how and when they arrived. Many of the more vertical...
  13. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    Most of the characters you list could also be derived from Aseel. The single throat lappet is an exception.
  14. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    What characters make you think they Green Jungle Fowl in their background?
  15. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    Many critters can distinguish people and their intent. My tame birds can select me from a group people with ease. Even fish I work with can recognize individuals across species boundaries. It appears to be a common behavioral feature of animals that live in complex environments where social...
  16. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    Teaser males and females. I use same with my fish. RIval males kept close to breeders help keep breeders mind in the game. Ripe females help determine if a male is even worth introducing a female to. Also appears live food used to tame by hand feeding so as to control stress.
  17. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    Trout are a cake walk compared to sunfish although sunfish much more fecund. You can do AI with the bird crosses although restraining the Green Jungle Fowl cock will be very stressful on him. Stress can cut down on quantity and quality of spew.
  18. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    I agree on both points. The Georgia Giant hybrid will pose the same challenges posed by crossing Green Jungle Fowl with a domestic chicken and trying to breed from the hybrids. Variation to the extreme. While still in college I crossed Northern Largemeouth Bass with Spotted Bass. Cross would...
  19. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    This much like what we see with birds. Natives as a general rule are not as exciting as exotics. You also have the issue precendence since once a species dominates a supply chain, it hard for new ones to be brough in, especially when care requirements differ markedly. Then comes the issue of...
  20. centrarchid

    Jungle Fowl

    Sunfishes. Some are classical as in everyone recognizes them as different species involving bluegill and redear. The more intensive project involves "subspecies" of bluegill that I am very confident will eventually be elevated to full species. Subspecies are Northern Bluegill, Coppernose...
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