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Quote: Reason I went to the common quail, header said Japanese Quail Plumage -color mutation, three are common quail mutation. the manchurian gold was a japanese, but was crossed with the common quail.

http://www.borealforest.org/world/birds/common_quail.htm

Quote: Didn't say he was the first, just that he import the common quail in the 60s, and started mass producing them. just because the japanese where here first doesn't prove his were japanese, because they where the common quail.

Quote: Each mutation start at a place, yes some can, come from the same area, just like the peafowl I know one breeder that has found more than one new mutation. Still point is they are not japanese ,but a mix of the two. Odd you gave the with wikepedia on japanese , but can't trust them...

like peafowl greens Muticus Muticus (JAVANESE) Mutiicus -Imperator Muticus-Specifier If these are crossed like the common quail and japanese, we call them muticus can't call them Javanese , but we have some who try. Same with corturnix corturnix, and corturnix japanese if cross you have...

Quote: Coturnix ....not japanese , because odds of them being pure japanese not very good.

Quote: Each mutation start at a place, yes some can, come from the same area, just like the peafowl I know one breeder that has found more than one new mutation. Still point is they are not japanese ,but a mix of the two. Odd you gave the with wikepedia on japanese , but can't trust them...

Quote: Coturnix coturnix is the common quail Coturnix japonica is the japanese quail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Quail DANGEST THING ABOUT MIGRATORY BIRDS... THEY CAN HAVE 1 HECK OF A NATURAL RANGE... Yep ,but here is where the marsh farm birds came from, Africa named after the...

Quote: RIGHT, AS IN Coturnix coturnix japonica..... THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME SPECES CODE Coturnix coturnix is the common quail Coturnix japonica is the japanese quail

Quote: That is incorrect. Dr. Stino studied quail captured upon arrival from Europe. Their plummage color was exactly like the Japanese Quail. He cross bred the two back and forth to create the birds we have today and the color mutations we have today come from the Japanese Quail that he...

Well know for a fact the British Range, english whites , and pharohs , all came from the common quails of Europe......they are not JAPANESE QUAIL. But for some reason people think they are, not so. Corturnix corturnix are the common quail of europe.